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shannon
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:59 am Reply with quote
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Amy Adams sure is cute, though.
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gromit
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:29 am Reply with quote
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Watched 16 Candles last night for the very first time.
An enjoyable and funny film ... which surprised me.
Sure the ending/wrap-up stuff was kind of stupid, and the sub-plot involving the sister's wedding (goombah in-laws and medication) was dumb and unfunny. But all of the stuff revolving around Molly Ringwald was sweet. And her father and brother in the film get a lot of good lines. I also liked seeing a young John and Joan Cusack.

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Syd
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I thought the wedding was very funny. Took some of the pressure of Molly's character by showing someone even more embarrassing. My favorite scene is the Geek and the cheerleader type trying to figure out whether they'd had sex and, if so, whether they enjoyed it. It's a much better film than The Breakfast Club.


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chillywilly
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That was when John Hughes was at the top of his game. He rode that for a while till he discovered a child that got left at home by himself. That's when things fell apart.

His last good film was Planes Trains and Automobiles.

Of course, The Breakfast Club was tops.

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gromit
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:37 am Reply with quote
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From the Janus films side program at the NYFF:
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CLÉO FROM 5 TO 7 Agnčs Varda (France, 1962), playing with “Zéro de Conduite,” directed by Jean Vigo (France, 1933), Oct. 14, 2 p.m.; Oct. 17, 3:15 p.m. “It’s about a passive woman who becomes an active woman. She takes off her wig and begins to look at people.” — Varda

This sounds like a fantastic pairing.
I'd love to see them both on a big screen.

Of course there are some other int'l films in that line-up
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/29/movies/29janu.html
that i've never seen, especially the Ichikawas and the Spansih films.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:59 am Reply with quote
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I have never seen Zéro de Conduite. Very frustrating.

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ehle64
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:11 pm Reply with quote
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lady has tix to the Saturday show. I'm going to try and see the Tuesday afternoon screeening if there are still tix. I've never seen Cleo. . . on the big screen before and it is one of my favorite films of all time. Also, am really wanting to see Zéro de Conduite, too.

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mo_flixx
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:04 pm Reply with quote
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shannon wrote:
yambu wrote:
billyweeds wrote:
Earl--Junebug and A History of Violence are terrific.

I just watched Junebug again last week. I have known every single character in that film. Nothing any of them say or do surprises me. They are alive and real as can be. It is a marvelous film.


Wow. I live where Junebug is set and the characters, at least the Southerners, couldn't have been more stereotypical and fake to me. Insultingly so. And this is coming from somebody who feels nothing but contempt for roughly 90% of my region's inhabitants, so for me to feel insulted should tell you how bad I think it is. I mean, there's enough to make fun of here without having to resort to "Mummah, wurs the gawddayum cig'rettes?!?" cliches.


JUNEBUG didn't do a thing for me. I had to force myself to watch it.
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lady wakasa
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:53 pm Reply with quote
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ehle64 wrote:
lady has tix to the Saturday show. I'm going to try and see the Tuesday afternoon screeening if there are still tix. I've never seen Cleo. . . on the big screen before and it is one of my favorite films of all time. Also, am really wanting to see Zéro de Conduite, too.


Zéro de Conduite is 40 minutes long, so I'm going to that; but Marie Antoinette starts at 3 and the Tuesday performance won't work for me, so I'm going to miss Cleo.

When I first got a DVD player, I saw a Jean Vigo box at amazon.fr (hey, he only did 4 films) and got all excited and ordered it. That was when I found out about regions. Then I bought a multiregion player, only to find out that French DVDs don't normally have english subtitles. So I have Zéro de Conduite on DVD - and my french sucks too much to understand it.

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gromit
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:04 pm Reply with quote
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I first saw Zero for Conduct in a course ("French Films in English"), so it was on a reasonable-sized classroom screen. Have watched it a few times on home vid since. Cleo (and Varda) I only discovered about three years ago. So only on dvd and my medium-sized TV.

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yambu
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:42 pm Reply with quote
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shannon wrote:


Wow. I live where Junebug is set and the characters, at least the Southerners, couldn't have been more stereotypical and fake to me. Insultingly so. And this is coming from somebody who feels nothing but contempt for roughly 90% of my region's inhabitants, so for me to feel insulted should tell you how bad I think it is. I mean, there's enough to make fun of here without having to resort to "Mummah, wurs the gawddayum cig'rettes?!?" cliches.

If you have contempt for 90% of the people around you, then maybe you're doing some stereotyping of your own.
Sure the characters are stereotypes. It's a comedy/drama about regional differences. They're also much more than that. The character you quote was trapped in self-loathing and knew it. He was embarrassed by his own weakness, which drove him on to more of the same. Very interesting, and well acted.
Stereotyping has a place in drama. Think Ratso Rizzo.
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Befade
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:39 pm Reply with quote
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Shannon wrote: "And this is coming from somebody who feels nothing but contempt for roughly 90% of my region's inhabitants."

Gosh, Shannon............what are YOU doing there?

I'm looking forward to Oldboy and Cleo from 5 to 7 (if it's on dvd). I have over 200 films on my netflix queue. At the top is Wanda with very long wait next to it. They just send the films below it first. The Swimmer had very long wait, also and it didn't take too long to get it.

I was reading something about The Departed where Jack Nicholson said he was upset when Stanley Kubrick died because he wouldn't be able to make any more films with him. That led me to checking The Shining out of the library...........and getting totally mesmerized. I think I saw that film when it came out and didn't like the horror aspect of it and just avoided it since. I had no remembrance of what a beautiful film it was.

Especially, the drive up to the resort, with the ominous music playing. The vast interior of the resort and the Navajo rug decor. The huge shrubbery maze outside.......especially with the snow. I'm not a Kubrick fan and am not sure of his perspective when he made films, but I wonder at the sense of spaciousness contrasting with the physical smallness of people, battling with the hughness of their uncontrollable emotions.

I think I'll start investigating some early Kubrick.
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shannon
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:46 pm Reply with quote
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Befade wrote:
Shannon wrote: "And this is coming from somebody who feels nothing but contempt for roughly 90% of my region's inhabitants."

Gosh, Shannon............what are YOU doing there?


Well, that other 10% are pretty fucking cool. But really, good question. I can't stand it.

yambu wrote:

If you have contempt for 90% of the people around you, then maybe you're doing some stereotyping of your own.


I'm allowed because I know of which I speak. The makers of Junebug are completely fucking clueless.

yambu wrote:
It's a comedy/drama about regional differences.


...which is rendered ineffective due to its getting the region completely and utterly wrong.


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chillywilly
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Befade wrote:
I think I'll start investigating some early Kubrick.

I liked The Shining, but I liked A Clockwork Orange much better.

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gromit
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:59 am Reply with quote
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chillywilly wrote:
Befade wrote:
I think I'll start investigating some early Kubrick.

I liked The Shining, but I liked A Clockwork Orange much better.

EARLY Kubrick?
Dr. Strangelove, of course.
Kubrick's first feature film, The Killing (1956) is good and worth watching.
But I really enjoyed Killer's Kiss (1955). It's a genuine noir, and very effective though only 65 minutes. This is the place to start if you wnat to see what a young Kubrick could do with a low budget and high creativity.

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