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mo_flixx |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:57 am |
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chillywilly wrote: mo_flixx wrote: What fascinated me was how small things are gradually revealed as we move backwards in time. At the film's conclusion (that is, the beginning); we finally understand all that has passed before our eyes - and are able to look at it with completely new insight.
So the film has a MEMENTO-like structure? I may have to grit my teeth and view this one.
Not really - because we always know exactly where in time we are. There is no confusion. The movie starts at the story's end and progresses to the beginning. The scenes AREN'T flashbacks or seen from a character's P.O.V.
The camera is literally a fly-on-the-wall in this film. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:35 am |
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Chilly--Irreversible is probably worth trying to watch. I confess (proudly) that I was unable to make it through. I did fast forward to the ending, however, which is happy and therefore extremely depressing. If you get my meaning.
Your comments on 8mm are accurate. The only pleasurable thing about it was Joaquin Phoenix's performance--still one of his very best IMO.
Similar to 8mm, but shallower and therefore much more "fun," is 52 Pick-Up, with Roy Scheider, Ann-Margret, and (in a really over-the-top but amazing performance) John Glover (and whatever happened to him?). |
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marantzo |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:32 am |
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I forgot to mention this; I saw Gloria last week on a movie channel. It's a good thing I came upon it by accident because the TV listings had it as the version starring Sharon Stone. This was the Gena Rowlands version. I enjoyed it thoroughly. |
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chillywilly |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:45 am |
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mo_flixx wrote: Not really - because we always know exactly where in time we are. There is no confusion. The movie starts at the story's end and progresses to the beginning. The scenes AREN'T flashbacks or seen from a character's P.O.V.
The camera is literally a fly-on-the-wall in this film.
Ahh. Thanks for the clarification. |
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chillywilly |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:52 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Chilly--Irreversible is probably worth trying to watch. I confess (proudly) that I was unable to make it through. I did fast forward to the ending, however, which is happy and therefore extremely depressing. If you get my meaning.
Your comments on 8mm are accurate. The only pleasurable thing about it was Joaquin Phoenix's performance--still one of his very best IMO.
Similar to 8mm, but shallower and therefore much more "fun," is 52 Pick-Up, with Roy Scheider, Ann-Margret, and (in a really over-the-top but amazing performance) John Glover (and whatever happened to him?).
I never saw 52 Pick-Up, but have been tempted a few times.
I agree. Joaquin's performance was great. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:52 pm |
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I'm waiting for Netflix to send me Thank you For Smoking, though I'm so jaded about film comedy that I'm not expecting much. The last great comedies were Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein. I last laughed 'til I cried at M.A.S.H. Have I missed anything? |
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:17 am |
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But Borat is coming. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:20 am |
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Had not seen Scorsese's Casino before, so made up for the gap today. It is a sprawling, violent and dramatic tale of the mob's control of Las Vegas casinos. Excellent performances, especially by Joe Pesci. Superb direction. I would place it below Goodfellas, but above The Departed. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:42 am |
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jeremy wrote: But Borat is coming. I almost peed my pants the first time I saw the tv commercial. ("Women here get to choose who they have sex with. Isn't that great?" "Not for me!") I may have to set aside my prejudice against shameless self-promoters and check it out. |
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Trish |
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:25 am |
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mo_flixx wrote: I am almost done viewing "Irreversible" with Bellucci and Cassel. This is an a.m.a.z.i.n.g. movie. It has to be seen to be believed.
The visual style of the wandering camera is completely unlike anything else I've ever seen. Violent sex shot in an unsexual manner.
I'm rushing back to the DVD as we speak.
Glad you watched it - although I'm a bit hurt that nobody felt like discussing the film when i posted about it last week - but are clammoring to talk about it now |
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marantzo |
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:19 am |
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Casino may be my favourite Scorsese. When it comes to rating his crime movies I think it comes down to personal preferences of what one likes to see rather than a judgement of artistic quality. They are just too close to each other quality/wise. |
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chillywilly |
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:36 am |
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yambu wrote: I'm waiting for Netflix to send me Thank you For Smoking, though I'm so jaded about film comedy that I'm not expecting much. The last great comedies were Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein. I last laughed 'til I cried at M.A.S.H. Have I missed anything?
Funny you should mention that. We just watched it yesterday.
I thought it was very funny, very clever lines (especially so for one line between the ex-husband and the new boyfriend). I think you will like it.
Katie Holmes was better than I thought she would be, but it was Aaron Eckhardt that was great. A fun film that has a lot of tongue-in-cheek moments and enough smooth and funny dialogue to garner more than just a few laughes. |
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mo_flixx |
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:34 am |
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Trish wrote: mo_flixx wrote: I am almost done viewing "Irreversible" with Bellucci and Cassel. This is an a.m.a.z.i.n.g. movie. It has to be seen to be believed.
The visual style of the wandering camera is completely unlike anything else I've ever seen. Violent sex shot in an unsexual manner.
I'm rushing back to the DVD as we speak.
Glad you watched it - although I'm a bit hurt that nobody felt like discussing the film when i posted about it last week - but are clammoring to talk about it now
Trish, it was your suggestion that made me rent the film. I don't blame you for being hurt. I post all the time and my comments are ignored for MONTHS! Grrrrr.
It would be great if you'd respond to the comments being made currently. |
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mo_flixx |
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:36 am |
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BTW, Trish I DID MENTION IT after I read your post...I said I was going to rent it because I'm a big Cassel fan.
I also want to rent DOBERMAN, another one of his films and another one by director Noe'. |
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Trish |
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:25 am |
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it seems that other have commented on the things I had - the reverse narrative working fabulously - it was more suspenseful in a sense - not so much knowing how it would end of course - but in the revealing of the characters, the life/lives that had been esentially obliterated by this horrible act of violence.
Then there was the crazy, scary virtual reality tour of The Rectum- which I think if I saw it on a big screen might have made me dizzy, sick from the way it was shot (constantly moving camera) - but emotionally it brilliantly set the tone of the film. |
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