Must disagree with that wording Joe. I've never seen a terrible Scorsese film. Even After Hours, to my mind his most misbegotten film, isn't bad, per se.

so what? He directed THE BEGUILED in the same year Spielberg directed DUEL.

Oh, I so agree. Trish, I'm working and don't have a lot of time right now to really discuss the movie but I do have a question. I'm going to white it out so it doesn't turn into a spoiler. If the last illusion (The Tesla machine) produced a clone which dropped into the water tank, then where did Angier go and how did he get to the balcony. Also do you remember what happened to Root?

Thanks Gary. No wonder I couldn't find it.

Point.

I was going to point out that Don Siegel directed The Beguiled in '71, and Eastwood debuted with Play Misty For Me. But I see from the IMDb Eastwood is also credited with a short documentary called The Beguiled: The Storyteller, I presume made on the set of the Siegel film.

Wade: Peace.

Play Misty for Me - that was a good one - Jessica Walter...sscary

Maybe that's it. Here's the link to Savant's article:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s78metro.html

The line I'm referring to is "A late '70's BBC reconstruction added a few shots, including some semi-nude 'Garden Girls' glimpsed briefly when Freder romps with his preppy pals among the ferns and fountains."

But thanks for your imput. I think you're most likely right.

Marj - there were some unanswered questions and its been a few months since I saw it in the theatre but I think there was more than one clone - that's how he could do it (but who is root? - I don't recall that name are you talking about cutter? Michael Caine?). I need to see it again. One viewing isn't sufficient obviously.

Trish,

No it's not. But I only saw it twice. If I had it, I'd see it again and maybe be able to aswer my own questions but I won't be able to do that for a few weeks at least. But I can tell you who Root is. (Whiting out again.) Root is the look-a-like Angier hired for the transported man illusion before he got the machine from Tesla. Interestingly they don't give him a credit in the movie. (He was played by Jackman.)

And yes, I realize there was more than one clone. As far as I can figure every time Angier stepped into the machine he was cloned.

I think I'm going to have to reorder the movie from Netflix. Are you going to as well?

Trish,

I almost forgot to mention. The book explains everything. I understand it's a fun read. You can get it for 6.99 on Amazon. My obsession with this film is forcing me to buy it. I think ...

IMO there is a real plagiarism case to be made against Fatal Attraction, which recycled practically everything in Play Misty for Me. The only significant change (and this is not all that significant) is that Douglas and Archer were married in Fatal Attraction, and Eastwood and Mills were not married yet in Misty. Meanwhile, Jessica Walter's amazing performance is all-but-forgotten while Glenn Close's nowhere-near-as-amazing perf in FA gave her career a jump-start. Sometimes there is no justice.

Play Misty for Me is ten times the movie Fatal Attraction is.