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| billyweeds |
 Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:38 am |
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whiskeypriest wrote: gromit wrote: I've never seen a film based on Joyce. Sounds diifficult to get
language and inventiveness into a visual medium such as film.
Pale Fire would be a bitch, if not impossible, to make a good film of.
In other news, Criterion will be releasing ACE IN THE HOLE (aka The Big Carnival) on Dvd this July. It's also showing on TCM in a few days (March 17th I believe). Looking forward to this. Not sure why it's been so neglected on video. I think the very act of filming Pale Fire would require you to make certain choices that would immediately detract from the novel's brilliantly playful complexity.
Agree completely. I posted something about it over on the Books forum. Love to hear your comment on my comment. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:46 am |
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| Sex sells, of course. Re comments that Nabokov is superficial, he is such a master of his craft that his word manipulation may seem like manipulation of plot and character. I will read Pale Fire, but it is the case with Humbert Humbert in Lolita, and Speak, Memory and Pnin. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:53 pm |
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yambu wrote: Re comments that Nabokov is superficial, he is such a master of his craft that his word manipulation may seem like manipulation of plot and character. I will read Pale Fire, but it is the case with Humbert Humbert in Lolita, and Speak, Memory and Pnin.
I think you put it perfectly. |
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| Rod |
| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:31 pm |
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| Watching Doctor X last night, I observed that Lionel Atwill must have been the first guy in film history to make a career of wrangling five syllables out of "lab-a-ro-tor-y". |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:04 pm |
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I looooove Dr. X.
I've always found it interesting that Warners filmed their early horror films in color. And made good use of color, too. I wonder if anyone is ever going to properly restore The Mystery of the Wax Museum. |
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| Rod |
| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:10 pm |
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I dunno, my copy of Mystery of the Wax Museum (on the flip side of House of Wax) is in no need of restoration, it's gorgeous; the two-color system suits the films perfectly; the high contrast and soaked-through quality of the colors makes them look like classic sci-fi illustrations.
One aspect I like of Doctor X is what bugs many other reviewers; making Lee Tracy the hero, instead of just comic relief. It dispenses with the ponderous idiocy of standard heroes of the period (David Manners ho!). Plus I never realised before it how incredibly hot Fay Wray was. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:16 pm |
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| Bloody Sunday is as good an anatomy of a riot as you are ever likely to see. This is a dramatized look at the 1972 Catholic civil rights march in Londonderry, No. Ireland, that ended with the deaths of thirteen demonstrators at the hands of British paratroopers. We need as serious a treatment of the Chicago Convention police riot of '68, and the Kent State massacre two years later. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:55 pm |
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Sarah Silverman is magic.
Jewish People driving German Cars. It's the opposite of FUBU.
Off to Kate & Jude-land. Love them both. Like Black & Diaz. Hate the Director. Whatevs. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:37 pm |
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ehle64 wrote: Sarah Silverman is magic.
Jewish People driving German Cars. It's the opposite of FUBU.
Off to Kate & Jude-land. Love them both. Like Black & Diaz. Hate the Director. Whatevs.
Forget what FUBU means. Please translate.
I think Sarah Silverman: Jesus is Magic is one of the funniest DVDs ever. I laughed almost nonstop. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:57 pm |
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| Bloody Sunday is the best documentary of inter-communal tensions I have ever seen. |
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| tirebiter |
| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:45 am |
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| FUBU: As I recall, it stands for "For Us, By Us," and was a black-owned clothing line out of Philly that stressed African-American pride and initiative. And they sold the line to a Korean concern that now makes the clothes and trades on the FUBU image. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:29 am |
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Rod wrote: I dunno, my copy of Mystery of the Wax Museum (on the flip side of House of Wax) is in no need of restoration, it's gorgeous; the two-color system suits the films perfectly; the high contrast and soaked-through quality of the colors makes them look like classic sci-fi illustrations.
The reason I mention this is that the movie was long thought a lost classic, and when finally unearthed was considered so sub-par, no one would donate money to restore it to its original condition. A copy was made of the lone color print, but not with any great care. I don't think any copies available today accurately reflect the original. Thus, my mouth waters at the thought. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:46 am |
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| The story I heard - recounted in a book called Classics of the Horror Film, author I can't remember - were exactly the opposite; for a long time the film was lost, then it was rediscovered in virtually pristine condition, to everyone's surprise. As it is, as I said, my copy's beautiful. The Ghoul, another rediscovered early '30s film, is in lethally bad shape. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:58 am |
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yambu wrote: Bloody Sunday is as good an anatomy of a riot as you are ever likely to see. This is a dramatized look at the 1972 Catholic civil rights march in Londonderry, No. Ireland, that ended with the deaths of thirteen demonstrators at the hands of British paratroopers. We need as serious a treatment of the Chicago Convention police riot of '68, and the Kent State massacre two years later.
Bloody Sunday makes it apparent why Paul Greengrass was such a good choice for United93. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:02 am |
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Rod wrote: The story I heard - recounted in a book called Classics of the Horror Film, author I can't remember - were exactly the opposite; for a long time the film was lost, then it was rediscovered in virtually pristine condition, to everyone's surprise. As it is, as I said, my copy's beautiful. The Ghoul, another rediscovered early '30s film, is in lethally bad shape.
You've got it almost right. Check out the book again (which is where I get my info from, too). Yes, they found a very good print, but because it was such a let down when seen, no one would put enough money for a negative to be struck from it. Thus color versions taken from it are not of the quality of the original film. |
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