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Marj
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:07 pm Reply with quote
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Syd - I love your candor. It's so rare. I mean that!
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jeremy
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:27 am Reply with quote
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OK, so I just watched The Descent and it scared the crap out of me. Wow - my heart is still pumping.


I hope you're not gonna let a little thing like a film put you off joining the local spelunking club.

I definitely prefer the British term, caving.

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Syd
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The Descent is not a movie to see if you have claustrophobia. It's really creepy even before anything unnatural happens.


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Syd
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:53 am Reply with quote
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Marj wrote:
Syd - I love your candor. It's so rare. I mean that!


I hasten to add that Forbidden Quest is not pornographic. In fact, there is no nudity at all. It's partly about writing pornography which is how the discussion whether a certain position is possible comes up.

The actress who plays the Queen (shouldn't that be Empress) of Korea is really striking. Rather unusual features Botticelli would have loved. I could have done with some nudity.

On the other had, I had a lot of trouble telling the actors with moustaches and beards apart.

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Rod
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:17 am Reply with quote
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I finally got around to watching The Last Emperor. I found it excellent and quietly moving. Not as full-blooded and voluptuous as Bertolucci's finest, and often scrappy, it was at its best when Bernardo was following his own bent instincts, like the Chinese band playing "Auld Lang Syne" for Peter O'Toole's farewell, and the aviatrix-spy-bisexual-opium-toting dragon lady villainness. John Lone was especially good. Even second-rate Bertolucci's better than most. Does not deserve to be lumped in with crap '80s Best Picture winners Gandhi, Out Of Africa, Rain Man, Driving Miss Daisy.


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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:06 am Reply with quote
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Rod wrote:
Does not deserve to be lumped in with crap '80s Best Picture winners Gandhi, Out Of Africa, Rain Man, Driving Miss Daisy.


Rain Man and Driving Miss Daisy are at least entertaining. If you think they're crap, I disagree, but I can sort of understand your attitude--but they are not the same sort of crap as Gandhi and Out of Africa, which are monumentally boring crap. The Last Emperor is less crappy but almost as boring. I. M. O.
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bart
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:49 am Reply with quote
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Earl, that seems about right -- Hoffman's professor directing the film towards charming fantasy and away from psychological crisis -- I liked the whole notion of keeping a tally of comic and tragic moments, after they'd established that Crick wasn't Miss Marple or a golem or a figure of classical mythology. Hoffman does a fine pedant, though I wasn't quite sure why he was moonlighting as a lifeguard. But that did further assist in keeping him from being a stock character.

The comic writing, on the whole, is very simple -- this can be a good rental for young teens.

Linda Hunt: Mr. Crick, you have schizophrenia.

Ferrell: No, no, I'm just hearing a voice in my head.

If there were any thing I'd change in the film, it might be to tweak Emma Thompson a bit -- perhaps she tried a little too hard to be eccentric.

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Befade
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:47 pm Reply with quote
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What is the house like? 50's modern or traditional?


Mo.....the house in Female on the Beach is 50's modern......alot of squares.....similar to Demi Moore's house in Architecture Digest but smaller. Several decks. With steps down to the ocean.

When making that film, she was sleeping with the producer.
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lady wakasa
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:03 pm Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
This obviously is a critical subject for discussion, so you all need to rent this film and weigh in with your opinions. And make sure you're up on your yoga before testing it. Viewers under 18 are exempt from the discussion although they may be the only ones flexible enough to test the subject matter.


I thought the characters demonstrating were hilarious, though - and they managed to get through it.

For anyone who'd like to check it out:
http://www.wakasaworld.com/misc/fq_miniatures.jpg

Hopefully this isn't too much of a spoiler (otherwise I'd've just posted the picture here).

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I saw Forbidden Quest in a theatre and got my sister the DVD (deluxe box) as a gift. She told me that the book that Kim Yun-seo "wrote" is included in the DVD box set. They've taken to hiding the DVD box in the back of their DVD collection so that no unsuspecting visitor picks it up by accident. *LOL*

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yambu
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:34 pm Reply with quote
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Rod wrote:
...Does not deserve to be lumped in with crap '80s Best Picture winners Gandhi, Out Of Africa, Rain Man, Driving Miss Daisy.
I love Out of Africa. Don't you just love the way Streep says "AfriCAH"? Don't know if anyone in the real world pronounces it that way.

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Ghulam
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:54 pm Reply with quote
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The Last Emperor and Gandhi were both excellent movies. They were also very entertaining. I also enjoyed Driving Miss Daisy.
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jeremy
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:08 pm Reply with quote
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I quite liked Out Of Africa as well, not least for Meryl Streep's rendition of another flawless, to my ear, European accent.

I was less impressed by the worthy, but dull Ghandi.

I think Billy has a thing about big period dramas stealing all the plaudits from smaller, but perfectly formed films. Personally, I think some credit should be given for ambition and scope.

Though I only dare whisper it, I think the English Patient is a good film.

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Rod
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Looking back, 1987 was an excellent year for movies. Alongside The Last Emperor, and some of them kicking its ass, there was Full Metal Jacket, Empire of the Sun, Ironweed, The Dead, Raising Arizona, The Untouchables, House of Games, Hope and Glory, and Moonstruck (about which I liked everything except Cher).

The big problem with Gandhi, when you pay close attention, is that after the first hour it stops being Gandhi, that is, a work about a man, and becomes "Famous Interviews Given By Gandhi To Western Journalists", with our gnomic hero giving quotable quotes to impressed white guys. By the end of the second hour it's hardly a drama anymore. Bertolucci, on the other hand, forces Pu Yi's story into the mould of one of his own stories, and it's the better for it.

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Ghulam
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:36 pm Reply with quote
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I like good big movies as much as good small movies. David Lean is one of my favorites. Attenburrough did catch the essence of Gandhi, even if it appeared as if he was too attentive to externals. And it was historically accurate. Gandhi's favorite bhajan (religious hymn) being hummed in the background struck some chords too. I remember my words coming out of the theater, "It's truly a labor of love".
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jeremy
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:43 pm Reply with quote
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There was no doubt that Attenborough was a great admirer of Ghandi. And though you have to try pretty hard to work up an antipathy for the man, hagiography does not necessarily make good cinema.

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