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Rod
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:57 pm Reply with quote
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Both Attenborough and Warren Beatty the previous year had imitated Lean but neither of them were in the same league.

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yambu
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:31 am Reply with quote
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BABEL - I am stunned by the brutal beauty of it. Art's highest achievement is to teach us empathy, and this film does it in every frame. This is a wondrous and important film for all the world to see.

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billyweeds
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:39 am Reply with quote
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jeremy wrote:


I think Billy has a thing about big period dramas stealing all the plaudits from smaller, but perfectly formed films.


You're right about this.

jeremy wrote:
Personally, I think some credit should be given for ambition and scope.


So do I, and that's why Schindler's List is a favorite of mine.


jeremy wrote:
Though I only dare whisper it, I think the English Patient is a good film.


There is no discussion possible about this.
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Rod
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:52 am Reply with quote
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I think a lot of large productions make easy targets and get shafted for their prominence. Plus I'm an inveterate history buff and gravitate to films with historical subjects. But I'm firmly democratically minded. Great film-making is great film-making.

The English Patient is reprehensibly bad (and more fake Lean).

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Marc
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:22 am Reply with quote
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BABEL - I am stunned by the brutal beauty of it. Art's highest achievement is to teach us empathy, and this film does it in every frame. This is a wondrous and important film for all the world to see.


yambu, I totally agree. The humanity and compassion in Babel is extraordinary.
Its message profound and revolutionary. We are all one. To realize that fact we must learn to communicate. And then we will discover how connected we are.
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Rod
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:48 am Reply with quote
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"The brutal beauty of it" - great phrase, Yambles.

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yambu
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:00 am Reply with quote
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Rod wrote:
"The brutal beauty of it" - great phrase, Yambles.
Thanks. I must have been thinking of Yeats: "....a terrible beauty is born." Good tagline for this film.

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yambu
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:36 am Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
The humanity and compassion in Babel is extraordinary....
And it cascades, all the time. SPOILER - When the Kate Blanchett character is helicoptered out of that remote Moroccan village, I feel glad for her, while I ache for the people looking on, who probably will never see a doctor in their lives. Powerful stuff.

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mo_flixx
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:23 am Reply with quote
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yambu wrote:
Rod wrote:
"The brutal beauty of it" - great phrase, Yambles.
Thanks. I must have been thinking of Yeats: "....a terrible beauty is born." Good tagline for this film.


Interesting quote - reminds me of quotes I've heard from the Trinity A-bomb explosion at White Sands.

And, of course at the time, no one really knew just how terrible that beauty would prove to be.
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yambu
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:53 am Reply with quote
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mo_flixx wrote:
"....a terrible beauty is born."....
Interesting quote - reminds me of quotes I've heard from the Trinity A-bomb explosion at White Sands....
Yeats was describing the Irish Easter rebellion of 1916. In our national psyche, it is forever connected with the first atomic test. Don't know who it was who co-opted the line..

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:43 am Reply with quote
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yambu wrote:
BABEL Art's highest achievement is to teach us empathy, and this film does it in every frame.


Do you really believe this, or were you just emotionally overwhelmed by a great movie?

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yambu
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:25 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
yambu wrote:
BABEL Art's highest achievement is to teach us empathy, and this film does it in every frame.


Do you really believe this, or were you just emotionally overwhelmed by a great movie?
In everything - EVERYTHING - that I remember about it, yes.

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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:25 pm Reply with quote
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Rod......unbelieveable.....you've seen it all. This is one of my all-time favorite movies......that noone ever mentions.

As to Ghandi......I will see Ben Kingsley in anything.

As to Babel showing us we are all one.......that sounds like a Unity Church mantra.......repeat 100 times......and it will become real.
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Ghulam
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:29 pm Reply with quote
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yambu wrote:
BABEL - I am stunned by the brutal beauty of it. Art's highest achievement is to teach us empathy, and this film does it in every frame. This is a wondrous and important film for all the world to see.


Word.
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Ghulam
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:51 pm Reply with quote
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The 2005 Romanian film The Death of Mr Lazarescu is a one night odyssey of an elderly man living alone in a tenement apartment, with his cats, falling ill, and his encounter with a tardy ambulance service and emergency rooms of several hospitals, one sending him to another because of being full, and the callousness and rudeness of a series of doctors. It may sound depressing, and at 153 minutes, a bit long, but this is a real gem of a movie, and deserves all the international awards it got. Cristi Puiu's direction is superb, and the documentary-like realism is breathtaking. I had planned to see it in two installments, but ended up seeing it in one sitting.
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