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| marantzo |
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| What the hell are you people talking about? |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:27 pm |
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It's a movie, mahn. This is a film society.
Sheesh - get with the program! |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:29 pm |
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Now that certainly deserves an LOL or even a 
How bout that! |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:46 pm |
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| The much acclaimed Australian "Western" movie The Proposition (2005) is full of graphic violence. The basic premise of the story can be faulted, but the narration is very stylistic and the editing is excellent. It comes across as a visual ballad. It holds your intrest from the beginning to the end. Good movie. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:41 am |
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| I don't think it got the credit or attention it deserved. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:59 pm |
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Anybody besides me seen Jesus Camp?
A scary film about evangelical/pentacostal kids. Evangelicals are one thing......but pentacostal/charismatic children........
Ted Haggard is in the film, preaching, joking, emphasizing that the Bible tells us what to think about homosexuals. Harry Potter comes up (he should be killed off).
What bothered me were that these were middle class kids fully indoctrinated into a viewpoint that has the U.S. a Christian nation, sin and the devil are everywhere, proselytizing in a bowling alley is a sign of faith, the world is a mess and we need to change it politically with the help of George Bush.
The kids are home schooled with a text that emphasizes that global warming is just a political football, evolution is not God's way, etc., etc. They read "Christian" comic books, watch "Christian" cartoons on tv, and basically have nothing to do with the secular world (except for shopping at Wal-Mart).
At the Jesus Camp in Devil's Lake, ND they listen to 6 hour long sermons, respond by crying and agonizing over the evil world.
The particular mission at the time was to get in judges that will overturn Roe vs. Wade. So that's what the kids spend their time praying about.
The two young women film makers did not seem alarmed. In their commentary they talked about how amazing the people were. I wonder.....since they weren't religious...were they subjected to alot of proselytizing? And how did these "Christian" families interact with other family members and people not sharing their "vision".
To balance the film they injected scenes of Air America's Mike Papantonio's point of view: This kind of Christianity is destructive. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:09 pm |
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| That weird roly poly Preacher was a fright! |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:23 pm |
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Especially when she said....."How do you like my hair kids?" The directors said she really had a way with kids....
Gary........you know why I found this sickening.. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:25 pm |
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| So is it the kids' receiving any religious education at all that bothers you, or just that they are getting a conservative religious education? |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:02 pm |
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Befade wrote: Especially when she said....."How do you like my hair kids?" The directors said she really had a way with kids....
Gary........you know why I found this sickening..
Oh yes.
I think I can answer for Betsy and myself, whiskey. Children being taught about religion goes on in virtually every religion. Nothing wrong with that. Children being indoctrinated by a religious group is not something that I find cricket. Children being indoctrinated in a closed atmosphere like a camp, by religious fascists which either borders on or is actually brain-washing is beyond the pale and a dangerous form of child abuse.
If I'm wrong about the way you feel about this, Betsy, I apologize. Let me know. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:07 pm |
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whiskeypriest wrote: So is it the kids' receiving any religious education at all that bothers you, or just that they are getting a conservative religious education?
I wouldn't call it 'consevative religious education'. Conservative is far too benign a description. These people are fundamentalist intolerant fanatics. |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:29 pm |
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marantzo wrote: whiskeypriest wrote: So is it the kids' receiving any religious education at all that bothers you, or just that they are getting a conservative religious education?
I wouldn't call it 'conservative religious education'. Conservative is far too benign a description. These people are fundamentalist intolerant fanatics.
I agree. And they are being prepared for and are currently doing missionary work.
Some may have found Snakes on a Plane scary. Jesus Camp was the most frightening movie I think I've ever seen. Even so, I think it needs to be seen! |
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| ehle64 |
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| I found Snakes On A Plane intolerable and agree that Jesus Camp is must-see Documentary. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:16 pm |
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Jesus Camp said absolutely nothing that any self-respecting liberal didn't know backwards and forwards already. It was old, twice-told, and oversold.
I thought Snakes on a Plane was fun. Though as Marc pointed out, it probably was only fun with a ready-to-be-entertained audience. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:44 pm |
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| Ehle, nice new avatar, but why don't you use that photo of yourself on the cards that you had made up. You look great. |
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