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inlareviewer
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:08 pm Reply with quote
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Hilary Swank stars as Amelia Earhart in a new movie out this October: "Amelia."



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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:24 pm Reply with quote
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:27 pm Reply with quote
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My goodness. She certainly looks Ameliaorated and Earhartfelt in that still.

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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:21 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
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But also more than a little dull. Maybe the dullness is intentional, to keep it from veering into action movie territory, but there was a good stretch there in the middle I found it hard to sit through.


Joe, I didn't find a single frame of THE HURT LOCKER dull.


Different tastes. Earl also found one section of it very heavy going, though he liked the movie over all a little bit more than I did. I can't imagine sitting through it again, and I think his reaction was the same.


I am late coming to this discussion; sorry for that. I think the comments above were from a couple days ago.

Anyway, Joe is right that I liked The Hurt Locker overall and I'm glad I saw it, but I didn't love it.

SPOILERS the rest of the way:

The segment I found uninteresting was the bit when Sgt James goes out in the night to try to discover what happened to Beckham the kid. Although, the sentry guard's line to James when James returns to camp and says where he's been was probably the best in the movie.

I particularly admired the performance of Brian Geraghty as Eldridge. This was a soldier who was not in great emotional shape when the movie started and throughout the story he gradually got worse.

The shots from afar of the people who lived in that city were ominous. Are they friendly or unfriendly? How can one know? That was superby done and added to the tension a lot.

Also, the edit from the war zone to the cereal aisle was pretty cool. One seemed to fade right into the other.

When Joe and I discussed it afterwards, we discovered that neither of us got the point of the slo-mo sequence which shows a shell casing spinning in the air and falling to the ground. Maybe it was meant to be a mesmerizing moment, but for me it wrecked the pacing of whatever scene it was in. Jolted me right out of the story for a moment.

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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:23 pm Reply with quote
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My reaction upon seeing the preview for Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds: "Good god, is that Mike Myers?"

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I may have mentioned it before, but the 99s Museum of Women Pilots is in Oklahoma City. The 99s get their name from there being 99 licensed women pilots at their first meeting in 1929. Amelia Earhart was their first president and they have some of her belongings and a model of her house. It's a pretty interesting place to visit.

It's located on Amelia Earhart Rd. at Will Rogers International Airport. Wiley Post Airport's in Oklahoma City, too. It's a bit like having airports named after Buddy Holly, Richie Valens and the Big Bopper.

I'm looking forward to the Earhart movie.

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lady wakasa
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:05 pm Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
I'm looking forward to the Earhart movie.


Yesterday I heard on the radio about a group of researchers who think they've found some traces of Amelia Earhart (time-appropriate compact, zipper) on a S Pacific island; they're on their way back to see if they can find more because it's now possible to collect DNA samples from items (which they didn't know with the samples they'd collected a few years ago) and the Earhart family agreed to give them a DNA sample.

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Really interesting stuff, and really timely with the movie.

Apparently not the story the movie went with, though. %^<

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Ghulam
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:04 am Reply with quote
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The Hurt Locker delivers suspense and tension in good measure and is well acted and directed. SPOILERS: The hero James does not seem quite plausible, but is saved from X-men perfection with the friendly fire episode and with his misadventures following the supposed death of the 12 year old Beckie. His insubordination in a unit that depends on precision for its success is somewhat jarring. Not all episodes are believable. There is also the side issue of how we should react to heroism in an illegal war. But as a movie it succeeds in achieving what it sets out to achieve.

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There is also the side issue of how we should react to heroism in an illegal war.


Ghulam, you make a very important point. If Sgt James is a hero then so are the terrorists who are making and planting the IEDs.
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gromit
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:22 am Reply with quote
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It often depends on which side you're on and your perspective. Read this jarring summary of Tacitus' account of the aftermath of The Great Fire of Rome.

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According to Tacitus, Nero ordered Christians to be thrown to dogs, while others were crucified or burned to serve as lights.[19]

He describes the event as follows:

Consequently, to get rid of the report [that Nero had the fire set], Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.

Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty*; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired.[19]



* unclear if they pleaded guilty to being Christians or to setting the fires. Probably both under torture.

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gromit
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:34 am Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:

Ghulam, you make a very important point. If Sgt James is a hero then so are the terrorists who are making and planting the IEDs.


Though I think in the film, James and his unit are portrayed as protecting everyone -- both the US troops and the Iraqi people from the bombs. I guess a clear illustration is when James tries to save the local guy who is rigged. So in some ways they are above or beyond the conflict itself, sort of like medical personnel, who care for anyone who is injured on either side. And that's probably how the reporter/screenwriter viewed himself as well.

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Ghulam
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:55 am Reply with quote
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Gromit said, " they are above or beyond the conflict itself".

That is true. But it is also difficult to separate them from the context.

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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:06 am Reply with quote
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Ghulam wrote:
Gromit said, " they are above or beyond the conflict itself".
That is true. But it is also difficult to separate them from the context.

That's why I said "in some ways."
Because the James Gang is also part of the occupation force, invaders in a hostile land.
They are alienated from the Iraqis, distrust them intensely, don't understand them or their language, and have dangerous weapons they waive around a lot.

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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:26 am Reply with quote
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It will be fascinating and possibly disturbing to see how Iraq fares after the foreign forces leave. It may end up actually being a substantial improvement over it's Saddam era, but it could also end up a mess of battling factions.

I don't think a central governement with all the decision making power will work. Semi independent provinces or states seems to be the most viable option.

Do they presently have a republican or parliamentary system? '

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