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| billyweeds |
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marantzo wrote: bartist wrote: I remember liking it for the character dynamics you describe, back in my "Bart" days here, though I've rarely liked Barbara Hershey in anything. Lantana is some kind of thicket, as I recall and LaPaglia presents it to the viewer as a visual metaphor at one point, climbing into the stuff. Will watch again, thanks for mentioning.
Yeah, she's a lousy actress. I find her very hard to watch.
Same here, especially after her collagen treatments. Before that she was a lousy actress but easy on the eyes (Last Summer). |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:20 pm |
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The eye candy factor can throw off one's judgment, at least temporarily. I'm still unsure if Winona Ryder can act, or if I'm just crazy about her waifish, just-fell-out-of-an-Edward Gorey-drawing look.
Just rewatched District 9 on the small screen, and found it every bit as good as I did in the theater. The inventiveness, the sly humor, the oddly compelling quality of the aliens -- worth several viewings, IMO. The DVD extras, however, are skippable -- mostly of the "yes, they deleted that scene for a very good reason" variety. Crack open a can of catfood, and enjoy! |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:34 pm |
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| My wife and I spent last night watching Les vacances de Monsieur Haricot. Somehow, that admission is less embarrassing in French. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:52 pm |
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| I take it, that you didn't like it. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 4:05 pm |
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| I've only seen the original, Haricot, found it quite funny and am not embarassed to disclose this. Many film titles do achieve a veneer of sophistication when in French, e.g. the 1983 Sejour de Printemps. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 4:12 pm |
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marantzo wrote: I take it, that you didn't like it. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 4:28 pm |
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| So one is called Mr. Bean and the other is Mr. Bean's Holiday. Haven't seen those two but I like Mr. Bean. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:54 pm |
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| I was watching part of Ran today. I'd seen it many years ago, and not since. My impressions this time were: (1) It's not a good idea to come in halfway through. Yes, I know it's based on King Lear, but it's still bewildering, and Lear's not all that simple. (2) The battle scenes are spectacular and wearying. There sure are a lot of them, all expertly choreographed, and (3) fortunately color coded. (4) Kurosawa must have had dibs on a good percentage of the horses in Japan. (5) The villainess is truly chilling. (6) Kagemusha's better. Ran's beautiful to watch, but it's pretty remote. It does get the horrors of war down very well. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:30 pm |
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I've seen 3 Kurasawa's: Dreams, High and Low, and the one about the man dying of cancer. I've always thought Ran involved too much heavy lifting. You've confirmed that, Syd.
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans is WAY better than I expected. Watching the sideburnless Cage walking with one shoulder raised is reason enough. But I love the pacing, the soundtrack, the bizarre shots of alligators and iguanas........and Cage's transformations from sensitive and thoughtful to drug-addled and wreckless. Harvey Keitel in the original left an impression of slease and overexposure. Was Madonna in that film? |
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:26 pm |
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"4) Kurosawa must have had dibs on a good percentage of the horses in Japan."
lol
I've had that impression from several of his films.
Befade -- you mean "Ikiru" -- the cancer guy -- saw that in undergrad days; powerful film, really takes its time. |
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:09 pm |
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Befade wrote: I've seen 3 Kurasawa's: Dreams, High and Low, and the one about the man dying of cancer. I've always thought Ran involved too much heavy lifting. You've confirmed that, Syd.
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans is WAY better than I expected. Watching the sideburnless Cage walking with one shoulder raised is reason enough. But I love the pacing, the soundtrack, the bizarre shots of alligators and iguanas........and Cage's transformations from sensitive and thoughtful to drug-addled and wreckless. Harvey Keitel in the original left an impression of slease and overexposure. Was Madonna in that film?
Yojimbo, Rashomon and ToB are my favorite Kurosawa. I have not seen Ikuru or High and Low. |
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:33 pm |
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Ikiru.......right.......kind of an interesting moral/spiritual drama?
High and Low is a suspenseful drama without much action.....but good to see in these times of class difference. |
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:48 pm |
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I've seen almost all of Kurosawa's films. Ran is the only one I walked out on.
Betsy, Zoe Lund was in the original Bad Lieutenant. She was a beautiful but tragic woman. A heroin addict who died from drugs in 1999, Zoe actually shot heroin in the dope shooting scenes in Bad Lieutenant. Your memory may be making the Madonna connection to her.
One of my best friends, Paul Hipp is Jesus in Bad Lieutenant and the director, Abel Ferrara, collaborated with me on my very first video in 1984. |
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:49 pm |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:36 pm |
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| I found The Bad Lieutenant (the original) a very ugly movie. Actually spending time in the underbelly of society is easier to take and more nuanced than TBL's oxygen deprived focus on it. A movie that warrants the description, "feh". |
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