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| billyweeds |
 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:54 am |
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Think it's funny that this post needed editing. What did it say originally? And what does the sentiment mean? That you resent Carnival of Souls being called a cult film? If so, my advice is to choose your battles. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:30 am |
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| No, he posted a video then removed it. Thus my comment in the Lobby. I'm guessing there was a video there, too, due to another deleted post. Not sure what it means. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:07 am |
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It was funny. Do you think it requires deconstruction? 
Gromit, the pajamas was referring to a link about the Chinese government trying to stop people from wearing pajamas on the street in Shanghai while the Expo is there.
Satin pajamas are the best, though not great in winter if you are going for a walk. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:53 am |
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Pajama people are a part of Shanghai culture.
It seems a bit odd, but why try to snub out a harmless and interesting part of the local culture.
Sometimes Hong Kong thinks its their thing, but it's fairly small there and transplanted there by Shanghainese.
I just saw a lady in her bright pink PJ's in the local Tesco (a Brit Walmart-ish chain) tonight, when I made a food and dvd run. [bought Rosellini's Europa '51 and talhotblond a 2009 documentary about an internet relationship gone bad]
It's primarily a middle-aged thing, but I've seen whole families out for an evening stroll in their pajamas. It's fun to see twenty-something girls in their pajamas in public. I always think, What you see is what you get.
When China started becoming wealthier, people got into flannel pajamas in the cold weather. Whereas pajama wearing in public used to be just a warm weather tradition. I like the guys with real loud silk pajamas walking in the street with a dangling cigarette, like it's their living room.
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There used to be a lot of people who would sleep in the parks, sidewalks or on bridges during the hot summer months. Right next to the noisy traffic and bright lights of a bridge seems like one of my last choices for where to sleep -- actually I wouldn't be able to sleep -- but I'm guessing they choose it for safety (?)
Presumably, they don't have air-conditioning. They sleep in their pajamas in public, usually in reclining chairs or on mats. I think it still goes on, but not in my area downtown -- though I 'm pretty sure that I saw it over on one covered sidewalk near where I play basketball.
I also get a kick out of the motorcycle guys in Shanghai who walk around the food store or eat in a restaurant while still wearing their helmets. Never sure what that's all about. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:01 pm |
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| Gromit, a new avatar, right? |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:43 pm |
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Quote: Pajama people are a part of Shanghai culture.
I think it's a great idea. I think most clothing is overrated and being retired there really is no reason to change out of pajamas........
Julian Schnabel......the artist/director (The Diving Bell and the Butterfly) is known for his pajama wearing.
Could I start a trend? |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 2:04 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Gromit, a new avatar, right?
Yeah, Gromit's now wearing pajamas, uh, hidden behind his newspaper. Nope, same old.
I actually haven't owned any pajamas since I was about 10. But I guess I do the same thing with sweat pants in the cold weather.
I think part of the public pj gig is due to the small old housing in Shanghai, where often two families shared a kitchen and a bathroom (and I still see folks carrying chamber pots to empty, those without an indoor toilet), many people brush their teeth, bathe their kid or wash their hair in public (on the sidewalk). So with a lack of personal space and privacy, wearing your pajamas in public seems normal.
It's understandable and looks sort of normal in the mornings or late at night, but does seem odd during the middle of the day. So start stealthily. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 2:20 pm |
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I re-edited this new video which I did for the French group Lola Dutronic. It consists of clips from French videos (Scopitones) from the sixties. The quality of the clips is a little funky because there are no pristine copies available. I spent many hours cleaning them up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jWnzNfVjY |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 2:47 pm |
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| I love it. The fade out and fade in near the end is particularly clever. Great combination of images and sound. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:23 pm |
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Quote: wearing your pajamas in public seems normal.
It sounds casual but not sloppy, friendly but not an assault on the senses. I like it. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:03 pm |
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| Thanks Joe. I didn't mean to interrupt "pajama chat". |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:20 am |
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| Good video Marc. It really did take me back to the 60's and Paris for some strange reason. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:32 pm |
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Marc--Finally saw As It Is in Heaven. Great movie without being remotely perfect. It is one of the most arrantly melodramatic, excessive stories I've ever seen. When they say "everything but the kitchen sink" they are talking about this movie. That Swedish town was a nest of crazies, and I kept switching back from being horrified and laughing my ass off.
But when they say "it works" they are also talking about this movie. It does a job on you, and the music is almost obscenely gorgeous. Thanks for the heads-up. I will probably see it again soon. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:30 am |
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Billy,
I totally agree with you. I am almost embarrassed admitting I like it as much as I do. When I screened it in Taos, the audience fell for it hook, line and sinker. It totally melted my cynicism. I sold out a week of screenings with alot of repeat viewers. It's melodrama with a capitol M. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:45 am |
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Marc--In fact, this movie almost defines a very impressive form of "high camp," finding that line between emotional honesty and looney sentimentality that is difficult to hit.
It achieves what Almodovar sometimes (e.g., All About My Mother) tries and IMO completely fails to do.
I have a feeling Douglas Sirk would have loved As It Is in Heaven. |
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