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| marantzo |
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jeremy wrote: Also, i am developing an almost film wrecking aversion to sassy black females or fiesty Hispanics, even when they come in the form of a skunk or an irritating mammoth. They are the modern equivalent of...The sooner we get our children to recognise basic racial markers the better.
I feel the same way. To me it is 'tude' that is far past it's due date. And the 'gangsta' thing is just as worn out. There have been many annoyingly repeated stereotypes of ethnic groups throughout film m history that wore out their welcome very fast. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:20 am |
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marantzo wrote: jeremy wrote: Also, i am developing an almost film wrecking aversion to sassy black females or fiesty Hispanics, even when they come in the form of a skunk or an irritating mammoth. They are the modern equivalent of...The sooner we get our children to recognise basic racial markers the better.
I feel the same way. To me it is 'tude' that is far past it's due date. And the 'gansta' thing is just as worn out. There have been many annoyingly repeated stereotypes of ethnic groups throughout film m history that wore out their welcome very fast.
Ditto to the max. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:49 am |
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| I saw Knife In the Water, guess, in Paris. I was not too thrilled with it. Of course Polanski and the movie were raved about at the time, so I was sure I'd like it. I was wrong. I found it more annoying than entertaining, and rather ugly in it's slow moving tale. But of course, as his future productions bore out, he has a thing with disturbing and ugly. Don't get me wrong, I think some of his movies are top notch. For me Knife In the Water was like some kind of psychological thesis about ego and lack of conscience. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:16 pm |
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Earl, that is an interesting take on the pretty assassin's demise in The American -- like Carro, I will have to watch again and observe more carefully. It certainly makes some plot points a little clearer and easier to make sense of.
Envying you and Joe the chance to see SB on a big screen.
Jeremy: what you said about the threadbare "sassy black" thing. "Over the Hedge" is not my usual taste and was redeemed, as I said, by Shatner possuming, American excesses lampooned, etc. And, as Syd mentioned, caffeinated squirrels and time dilation. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:54 pm |
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marantzo wrote: I saw Knife In the Water, guess, in Paris. I was not too thrilled with it. Of course Polanski and the movie were raved about at the time, so I was sure I'd like it. I was wrong. I found it more annoying than entertaining, and rather ugly in it's slow moving tale. But of course, as his future productions bore out, he has a thing with disturbing and ugly. Don't get me wrong, I think some of his movies are top notch. For me Knife In the Water was like some kind of psychological thesis about ego and lack of conscience.
It is about mind games and it drips with sexuality, both hetero and homo. And he achieves it all with just three characters. I saw it with a London audience in 1963, and have carried good memories of it. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:03 pm |
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Ghulam wrote: marantzo wrote: I saw Knife In the Water, guess, in Paris. I was not too thrilled with it. Of course Polanski and the movie were raved about at the time, so I was sure I'd like it. I was wrong. I found it more annoying than entertaining, and rather ugly in it's slow moving tale. But of course, as his future productions bore out, he has a thing with disturbing and ugly. Don't get me wrong, I think some of his movies are top notch. For me Knife In the Water was like some kind of psychological thesis about ego and lack of conscience.
It is about mind games and it drips with sexuality, both hetero and homo. And he achieves it all with just three characters. I saw it with a London audience in 1963, and have carried good memories of it.
That's when I saw it also. I agree with your description but the memories that I carry are more like frustration (whited out) "will it please get somewhere!" but it never does. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:44 pm |
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Trafic. The last and by far the least of Jacques Tati's M. Hulot movies, this is a comedy about the role of automobiles in our lives, centered around the effort to get a camper designed by M. Hulot from France to an auto show in Amsterdam. Naturally, everything possible goes wrong, and you get the idea that the camper is never going to get to the auto show in time.
For the first half hour, it seemed like Tati had made a serious attempt to make a M. Hulot film without any laughs. That changes with a scene involving the auto company's PR person, Maria, arriving at the auto show in her little yellow convertible sports car. She puts the roof up and proceeds to change clothes in the sports car. Since it is a sports car, this requires putting her feet out the window so she can take off her shoes, get into her skirts, etc. And she seems to have an unusual number of costume changes in this little sports car, not to mention a large number of hats in the spare tire compartment. The sports car is a character in itself, and I always looked forward to seeing it.
SPOILERS: Oddly, Maria is more of an agent of chaos than M. Hulot is. She keeps having to go back in her sports car in order to locate M. Hulot and his driver. She keeps telling them to follow her, forgetting that she is in a tiny car and they are in a huge van. When they reach a border crossing, Maria is waved right through since she's probably been through six times already. The van, of course, follows her right through the border crossing without stopping, waking up every customs agent in the vicinity. So the agents get to show the camper, which M. Hulot has equipped with accessories. All the accessories. This is the Swiss army knife of campers. It can even make itself longer by pulling the back away from the front. It takes something like twenty minutes to show the accessories.
One of the themes of the movie is that Maria, who starts out as being harsh and demanding and obsessed with her job, thaws out as the movie goes on, and is quite having fun as it becomes clear that the road trip has become chaotic. This works well, which is fortunate because M. Hulot doesn't really have that much to do. He also looks old, which is not surprising since Tati was 64 by the time he made the film.
In fact, one of the big problems here is that Tati is more interested in jokes involving cars than in developing characters, including M. Hulot himself. It makes for an impersonal feeling film, and far from Tati's best work. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:32 pm |
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| Watched Animal Kingdom last night - very interesting Psychological drama - I've been thinking about it a lot today. Curious what others who have seen it think. I have different theories on the ending. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:59 pm |
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Trish wrote: Watched Animal Kingdom last night - very interesting Psychological drama - I've been thinking about it a lot today. Curious what others who have seen it think. I have different theories on the ending.
I liked without loving it, and think Jackie's Oscar nom should have gone to Mila Kunis for Black Swan. However, I'm intrigued by your theory on the ending. Give! |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:40 pm |
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Caught two today. The first being by far the best, was a simple well acted revenge piece with startlingly good music and location shooting called 'Dead Man's Shoes'. A collaboration between Shane Meadows and Paddy Considine. With Meadows directing their work Paddy Considine and Toby Kebbell ,both of whom have had the dubious honor of playing Rob Gretton the manager of Joy Division in Control and 24 hour People respectively, play brothers in a no choice but to kill the offenders style movie with no frills except the breathtaking scenery. Along with what I suspect are friends and family these two came up with a chilling piece of work which has to be seen by anyone who has ever thought I Spit on Your Grave was the end all be all of revenge flicks. Underplayed enough to scare you in broad daylight and twisted enough to give Agatha Christie fans a turn Paddy stops at nothing to kill all the monsters, all of them. Watch it on a wet afternoon with someone you've just met and see who jumps first.
The next one was a bit of a disappointment for me because I've been looking forward to seeing the trio of them, it was the first installment of 'Red Riding'. Although it could said to have promise I waited a long time to have that promise broken by what I finally consider not much more than a bit of minor torture porn. Maybe part two will keep it's word. I'll see soon. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:39 am |
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[quote="billyweeds"]Ghulam wrote: Revisited Roman Polanski's Knife in the Water after an interval of 48 years. It holds up quite well. The way he can build up tension out of simple interactions is amazing.
I've never seen it. It's time.[/quoteI've always been fond of Large Inflatable Crocodile in the Water myself. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:15 am |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:04 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Trish wrote: Watched Animal Kingdom last night - very interesting Psychological drama - I've been thinking about it a lot today. Curious what others who have seen it think. I have different theories on the ending.
I liked without loving it, and think Jackie's Oscar nom should have gone to Mila Kunis for Black Swan. However, I'm intrigued by your theory on the ending. Give!
well 2 separate scenes had be thinking: (SPOILERS!!)
early on when Barry was shot (basically murdered) by the cops. I couldn't understand why they would kill him in cold blood when supposedly they were after Pope. Then later when it is reveiled that the the Codys have an inside man - I thought Pope set Barry up to draw the heat off him or perhaps because Barry wanted out of the family business.
The last scene when Josh kills Pope. Did Janine (Grandma) and Darren know Josh intended to do this and sanctioned it - as Pope was out of control or Were they genuinely shocked when Josh came out alive (instead of Pope) and just went with it - a New King in Jungle.
I'm not lost on the fact that the film is called Animal Kingdom - the strongest, most Machiavellian beast runs the show (Grandma Janine - until Josh knows better - if that ever occurs)
what are your theories? |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:12 am |
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Trish wrote:
what are your theories?
Got none. But interested in yours. SPOILER
I thought Josh just killed him because he was an out-and-out son of a bitch who killed people Josh loved. But maybe Josh was a Michael Corleone in the making. You may be right. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:18 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Trish wrote:
what are your theories?
Got none. But interested in yours. SPOILER
I thought Josh just killed him because he was an out-and-out son of a bitch who killed people Josh loved. But maybe Josh was a Michael Corleone in the making. You may be right.
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I knew why Josh killed him (although I wouldn't rule out the extra reason - power in the family and more importantly -the only way to stay alive - as neither his family nor the cops were going to protect him) - he killed his girlfriend. I was just considering if his other brother (whom he intimidated and messed up his life) and mother (who could sense his failing mental health) were in cahoots with Josh. |
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