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grace
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:16 pm Reply with quote
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Saw Hope Springs. Pleasant. Pleasantly SASSY (that's for inla). Not making my Top 100 any time soon. Have spent worse 100 minutes in a movie theater.

I unsuccessfully stalked Mamie Gummer's Mom during filming for this near my work. My original plan re Hope Springs was to WFV and watch it only pick out landmarks; but with a slightly toasty (hotter than lukewarm) endorsement, I may try to catch it in the theater.
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Campaign is crude and idiotic, and thus captures the modern political scene admirably. Zack G always great to watch and seems to know what to do in this type of OTT comedy. The political satire is obvious and painted in broad strokes, but some fun to be had. Will Ferrell is...at his most feral. I laughed more than I want to admit to.

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Mel Ott?

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OTT is "over the top" but I suspect you knew that. I have no qualifications to review a Mel Ott based comedy, as the man is known to me only through crossword puzzle clues.

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Ott and Orr are the crossword puzzle champions.
gromit
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I got suckered into watching a Christian film the other night. Blue Like Jazz sounded like an earnest indie film dealing with a Texan Baptist going to Reed College in Oregon and having his religious assumptions challenged. Even has jazz in the title. I figured I could send it to my niece who will be starting university in Oregon in a few weeks.

BUT, the film is kind of an oddball. The message is that Christianity provides a moral grounding even if the history is littered with some unsavory doings. Some of the Christians make mistakes, the atheist college kids have fun. It's kind of amusing how liberal arts college is portrayed as some sort of constant bacchanalia with crazy drunken folks often in costumes enacting various pagan/adolescent rituals. And any student with religious convictions is explicitly advised to hide them because atheists and lesbians and a black dean rule the academic world. But Christianity is hip and strong enough to look at itself, laugh at itself, but ultimately be rewarding.

Underneath the hokum, it's reasonably diverting with some decent characters within a schematic universe and a weird silly parody of liberal university. Or better to say some decent young actors inhabiting stereotypes -- the girl playing the lesbian looked a lot like Amy Winehouse. And the girl playing the female Christian student looked like a young blonde Karen Black. Sorta. Anyway, the end message of the film was preachy and as unsubtle.

Weird stuff. Apparently the book of the same name was a recent NYT bestseller and Blue Like Jazz is a phenomenon of sorts within Christian media circles.


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grace
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:10 pm Reply with quote
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gromit wrote:
It's kind of amusing how liberal arts college is portrayed as some sort of constant bacchanalia with crazy drunken folks often in costumes enacting various pagan/adolescent rituals.

Actually, that's a pretty fair description of my college years.

I might have to keep an eye out for Blue Like Jazz. Despite being a heathen, I'm a a sucker for that type of flick in moderation (and without irony). Thanks for the heads up.
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Whoever recommended "Micmacs" here: thank you. Brilliant, clever, artful, fun.

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Off to see Killer Joe with Earl. Hoping I like it.

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Joe Vitus
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Probably should see Killer Joe again before coming to a conclusion about it. My initial reaction is "meh." I liked the fucked up family dynamics, and near-constant stream of non-sequitors. But it's also filled with all that junk that movies set in Texas can't resist (bad overdone accents from most of the cast, girls with raccoon-style mascara, trailer park interiors, strip clubs). And can we please have an end to the aesthetic conceit that muddy photography with primary colors somehow constitutes "grittiness"? Maybe it did when you saw a grimy print of Sweet Sweetback at a grindhouse in the 70's. Not now when it's an intentional affectation.

Matthew McConaughey does the dark comedy aspects well, but is surprisingly bad at the silent, deadly bit. I guess he's better at manchildren than men. (I know that at this point Clint Eastwood wouldn't touch a role like this with a ten foot pole, but I've got to wonder how much more effective he'd have likely been in it.) Juno Temple does very well with a part so completely written out of memories of Baby Doll and her later Roger Corman descendents that it's surprising she can find any character to play, at all.

I do think I liked the movie more than anything else by William Friedkin I've ever seen. Will probably check it out again. Would like to read the play it's based on.

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gromit
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:03 am Reply with quote
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Hey Weeds, have you gotten hold of Margaret yet?
I'd like to hear your opinion.
Especially since you is a New Yorker.
(your Upper East side?)


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bartist wrote:
OTT is "over the top" but I suspect you knew that. I have no qualifications to review a Mel Ott based comedy, as the man is known to me only through crossword puzzle clues.


He didn't have the cinema impact of Fred Ott.

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Micmacs is quite funny, owing to the lead actor's comedy chops - there is something of "Bean" in his antics. The film is ridiculous and made me think "French Terry Gilliam."

Fred Ott seemed familiar. Realized he'd been mentioned as one of the pioneers who worked in Edison's film lab in West Orange. Will Shortz might be glad to know there is more than one clue for those three letters.

Killer Joe looked awful, but I look forward to your second review, Joe V, the one in which you will come to a conclusion. I have like Matt McC more in recent years, with outings like The Lincoln Lawyer.
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I got suckered into watching a Christian film the other night. Blue Like Jazz sounded like an earnest indie film dealing with a Texan Baptist going to Reed College in Oregon and having his religious assumptions challenged. Even has jazz in the title. I figured I could send it to my niece who will be starting university in Oregon in a few weeks.


Where's your niece attending school? I attended Reed my freshman year. Lots of kids with high SAT scores and copious supplies of pot, LSD, and mescaline. It was the 1970s. My ex taught at Oregon State for a while.

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OU in Eugene.
I believe.
She's leaning towards environmental science.

I sent her an email last week on college tips.
Mostly:
- Take notes, and find someone in the same class you can get notes from when you miss class or your notes suck.
- Do the reading. Read ahead if you want to look smart.
- Learn how to make a schedule which is balanced between easy/hard classes, lectures/seminars, and final exam/final paper (if applicable).
- Figure out the library and bookstore
- Make time to study
- and most important, the Professor makes the class, so read student evaluations online and talk to people to find good profs/classes
- Don't sleep with your professors

Okay, I didn't include the last one.
I'd like to provide a tutorial in how not to get pregnant, but I don't think it's Uncle Gromit's place to do that. Hope her parents or friends or the internet tells her, as no one told me a thing when I was in high school or finishing college. And my knowledge of such things and options was, looking back, pathetically limited.

An ex-girlfriend of mine teaches Ukrainian feminist sociology at Reed. I thought of emailing her a Hello, but not sure if it would be appreciated. We had rather different approaches to life and study and my more casual intelligence irked her for some reason. Oddly we went to the same university undergrad and I even knew two of her ex-boyfriends (one nice guy, one interesting weirdo), but we never met until we both went to grad school in a different city and moved into the same building within days of each other.

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