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| whiskeypriest |
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billyweeds wrote: whiskeypriest wrote: For what it is worth for an embarrassingly long time I thought NSFW meant Now So Fucking What based on the first context I ran across it in.
NWA is, I assume, Elmer Fudd's favorite special interest group.
Now you got me. What would that stand for? |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:57 pm |
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| Double ppst. |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:36 pm |
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| I thought TANSTAAFL was Larry Niven's. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:37 pm |
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| At the risk of entering into a discussion that can only be had between 2 or more nerds, I will suggest that Heinlein could have learned it from Niven...or it may have been in the common parlance for their whole generation. Seems like a meme that could have grown out of the Depression. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:31 am |
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bartist wrote: gromit wrote: Back in 1991, I do recall wondering for a few months what OPP stood for. Not enough to actually ask anyone or listen to the lyrics of the song. But it took a while before the meaning was revealed to me.
I remember when I learned this. About 9:55 AM MDT, August 21, 2015. Which makes fairly clear I haven't been much of a rap fan.
Well, I was living down on the south side of Chicago at the time.
That song was a huge rap hit, one of the first real breakthrough rap songs. And the question repeated in the song "Are you down with OPP?" didn't give much to go on. I guess it was played primarily in the record stores, which were already under threat from CD's, so they were trying to be hip with rap.
But the OPP song was pretty ubiquitous, and to me meaningless for months. I thought rap had some promise around then, back when they were sampling MLK speeches and James Brown riffs. But then it turned into boastfulness, misogyny, beats without melody, and spoken word poetry without musicianship.
In general, there's little post-1980 music I listen to anyway. Though I'm always glad when I find a song or musician putting out good stuff. Something like Joanna Newsom's Emily, from about 5 years back which I consider a great song -- even ties into our astronomy discussion, with its refrain about meteors/meteoroids. Give a listen. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:58 am |
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Was at the Dvd store and saw a few interesting things:
Queen Latifah portraying Bessie Smith
Vanessa Redgrave as Isadora Duncan
(okay the latter is from 1968)
Has anyone seen either of these -- look interesting.
Otherwise I need to put together a list of current films folks have been touting. I didn't see anything that caught my eye at the store, except the doc Timbuktu. But the Blu had English subs while the Dvd didn't. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:32 pm |
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| I saw Isadora Duncan on TV way back when, and it was before the movie version. I forget the name of the woman who played Isadora and she was way better than Vanessa Redgrave in the movie. The TV version was better than the film, but the film was OK. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:41 pm |
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billyweeds wrote:
First up was Ricki and the Flash, the new Meryl Streep dramedy in which she gets to rock with Rick Springfield as well as provide laughs and tears in a family story that actually has heart and soul. I loved it. Never a particular Streep fan, I usually like her best in her less "Oscar-worthy" performances. (My favorite has always been and remains Postcards from the Edge, but Ricki is maybe #2.)
I was wondering whether her daughter might have a shot. I thought Springfield was very good; better than Streep, in fact. Like the ending, and it's good to see Ricki and the Flash get another album after all these years. Very nice ending.
It's too bad Ricki lost that number, or she might have stayed in closer contact with her children. Sending it off in a letter to herself wouldn't have helped because she was always on tour. If she's kept it, she might even have had a change of heart. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:21 am |
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| Syd--I think you're right about Springfield. He was really impressive. I admit without shame that the scene of his guitar revelation followed by their rendition of "Drift Away" had tears streaming down my face. Partly because "Drift Away" is one of my very favorite rock tunes, but equally because Springfield's acting nailed the moment so totally. And then Streep's remarkably committed affection which ensued. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:09 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: Syd--I think you're right about Springfield. He was really impressive. I admit without shame that the scene of his guitar revelation followed by their rendition of "Drift Away" had tears streaming down my face. Partly because "Drift Away" is one of my very favorite rock tunes, but equally because Springfield's acting nailed the moment so totally. And then Streep's remarkably committed affection which ensued.
It had me in tears, too. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:36 am |
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The Russian documentary Red Army is about the renowned hockey team of the Soviet Union, its heroes, its travails and victories and the intense conflict that was faced by some of their star players because of the lucrative offers from some American and Canadian teams. It is an honest and frank presentation, at times brutal, but ultimately it is a human story. Worthwhile.
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:08 am |
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carrobin wrote: I thought TANSTAAFL was Larry Niven's.
It goes back to the 1930s. Heinlein used it as the rebels' slogan in The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, which is where I came across it. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:43 am |
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bartist wrote: .....or it may have been in the common parlance for their whole generation. Seems like a meme that could have grown out of the Depression.
Cough |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:55 am |
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Anyone know anything about the following recentish films:
When We Were Young
The Fault in Our Stars
Rainy Sunday, Rainy ... (Ok, I need to figure out the actual title)
Murder of a Cat
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:06 am |
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bartist wrote: bartist wrote: .....or it may have been in the common parlance for their whole generation. Seems like a meme that could have grown out of the Depression.
Cough
SF Fandom started in the 1930s which would have been about the time it became current and Heinlein started writing. Wikipedia mentions it as a punchline of a joke from the late thirties, so your hunch is right.
Niven would have picked it up in his fannish days. |
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