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| bartist |
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billyweeds wrote: yambu wrote: Time I saw the Lee J. Cobb version again.
Where can one see Cobb do Loman? Fredric March did the movie, and Dustin Hoffman later, but AFAIK Cobb never committed it to the screen. Tell!
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_Salesman_(1966_U.S._film)[/url] |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:06 pm |
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[quote="bartist"]billyweeds wrote: [quote=Where can one see Cobb do Loman? Fredric March did the movie, and Dustin Hoffman later, but AFAIK Cobb never committed it to the screen. Tell!
I don't remember the Marshall/George Segal version - I was watching the Cisco Kid.
Lost treasures are Loman played by George C. Scott, Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Brian Dennehy. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:10 pm |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:42 am |
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| Gonna catch Cobb's Willy asap. |
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| inlareviewer |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:11 pm |
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Syd wrote: inlareviewer wrote: Don't throw things, but we really dug the new Beauty and the Beast. Just saying -- have been humming "Belle" and "Gaston" and "Be Our Guest" for days now. It doesn't supplant the original (impossible), but it doesn't feel like a money-grabbing Why? piece either, providing a persuasive (and technically jaw-dropping) alternative. La Belle Emma, Beastly Mr. Stevens, Almost Steals It Gaston Evans and Ye Gad LeFou Forever are particularly choice, but the whole thing is both dazzlingly escapist and contextually expressive, and we certainly could use its central message at present. Plus, the tweaks to the story give it more resonance/relevance, not least the decision to pull the anthropomorphic servants into the life-or-death stakes of the spell and the narrative resolution. Howard Ashman lives. There must be more than this provincial life.
I just got back from it. I agree about the tweaks. It made for some very moving scenes toward the end. I got the impression that the enchantress's spell was also meant to make the servants into more caring people.
Precisely. Our impression as well. The denouement benefited immensely from just that aspect. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:36 am |
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Unfortunately my disc of Timbuktu didn't have English subs, so i just watched 15 mins and exchanged it. It looked quite nice though. Hopefully will get to see all of it at a later date.
La La Land was pretty enjoyable. The opening traffic jam number is a lot of fun and a good intro to the setting of the film. The whole film is like one big homage to those Demy musicals of the 60's.
I liked that it didn't overdo the musicals numbers, but focused on the romance a good deal as well. And it was a believable romance.
I found it a little odd to cast non-singers in the lead roles, though they manage okay. I guess the film wanted to have an everyman feel to it, but then again these are two attractive people, an aspiring actress and a jazz musician, which kind of cuts against that.
I didn't understand all the praise for Emma Stone. I think she's fine enough, but nothing stood out for me about her role. And on occasion her rather mobile facial features somewhat distracted me. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:45 am |
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I know what you mean about mobile facial features. Casting should always involve Norwegian farmgirls, known for the immobility of their facial features. Actually, Scarlett Johansson comes pretty close. But she's probably always busy, playing aliens and cyborgs and such.
Maybe, if they had kept the facial mobility in check, LLL would have won the best picture for more than 3 minutes. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:14 am |
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| Frankly, I don't know what you mean about mobility (though bart's reaction post seems tongue in cheek, i think gromit was dead serious). Emma Stone was superb IMO, especially in her final song (the audition), the success of which was essential to the entire ending of the movie. Perhaps her expressive features, most specifically her eyes, were (in gromit's perception) too much of a contrast with Gosling's perpetual deadpan, which he almost always uses to maximum effect. In some ways, Ryan Gosling is the new hip version of Buster Keaton. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:43 pm |
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gromit wrote: Manchester by the Sea didn't do much for me. I didn't like its somewhat choppy editing rhythm. And the flashback structure seemed a bit clunky. The music didn't really work for me. And I thought the acting was okay, but nothing special. A few scenes looked like actors acting. Overall, the plot felt overly schematic (is that the word I want?)
It was entirely okay, but seemed like the kind of film I'll forget about entirely within a few weeks.
The story was creatively different, how robust friendships can crackle in no time. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:02 pm |
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yambu wrote: gromit wrote: Manchester by the Sea didn't do much for me. I didn't like its somewhat choppy editing rhythm. And the flashback structure seemed a bit clunky. The music didn't really work for me. And I thought the acting was okay, but nothing special. A few scenes looked like actors acting. Overall, the plot felt overly schematic (is that the word I want?)
It was entirely okay, but seemed like the kind of film I'll forget about entirely within a few weeks. The women's jahid veils always give me a boost. The head and chest coverings accentuate the back, so they all look like dancers. Who said Islam can't be sexy.
The story was creatively different, how robust friendships can crackle in no time.
Jahid veils??? Are you talking about Manchester by the Sea? I don't think so. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:01 pm |
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| Perplexing. Mosul-by-the-Sea? |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:23 pm |
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billyweeds wrote:
Jahid veils??? Are you talking about Manchester by the Sea? I don't think so. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:39 am |
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| I am struggling to recall the sexy veiled Muslim dancers in that movie. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:23 am |
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bartist wrote: I am struggling to recall the sexy veiled Muslim dancers in that movie.
Maybe there are extras on the DVD. Will have to check. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:21 pm |
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Personal Shopper was the perfect vehicle for Kristen Stewart. She has a tomboy teenager persona. Perfect for expressing her contrast to the demanding, self centered celebrity she works for. Perfect for showing fear about an unknown caller. (Texter). And perfect for tuning into a scary supernatural. I don't think she's ever been better. Edge of the seat stuff.
Bart.....my memory for figures is shameful. I just came back from Iceland and learned that one in ten natives are published authors. By the way, I enjoyed 3 Icelandic films on the flights. |
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