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| Joe Vitus |
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| I did misunderstand. But then, I claim to have been in a semi-trance since the semester began. I had thought you were saying elements of it grabbed hold of you and you couldn't let go, but that overall it was more like, "meh." Sorry to have misread. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:09 am |
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SPOILER NECESSARY FOR THE RED SHOES? WHY NOT?
I saw The Red Shoes as a little boy and it gave me nightmares for weeks. What a sad and horrible ending. The blood, the blood! |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:12 am |
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SPOILER FOR THE RED SHOES AND PEEPING TOM
Isn't it interesting that Moira Shearer ends up dying violently in both of these Michael Powell features? Such a weird fate for such a lovely and talented dancer-type. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:08 pm |
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I haven't seen Peeping Tom, though I want to.
Red Shoes SPOILER
You're story about having nightmares due to The Red Shoes strikes a chord with me. As a kid, the original fairy tale freaked me out. Of course, I read it over and over as a result (that's the sort of child I was). I like that what in the fairy tale is a result of the Sin of Pride in the movie becomes the self-immolation of an artist. And I mean this throughout the movie, not just at the end. |
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| Melody |
| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:41 am |
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gromit wrote: Lastly, did anyone see Don't Come Knocking, Wim Wenders-Sam Shepard collaboration from 2005. I'm not a Wenders fan, and don't remember hearing one word about this film. Any thoughts?
I've not heard of it, but if you watch it, I'd be interested to hear what you think. I looked at the description on IMDb and it sounds right up my alley, being shot out west in desert country. Sam Shepard is a helluva writer. And at the bottom of the page, it says if I like this movie, I'll like Blue Velvet, so naturally I'm intrigued.
I love Paris, Texas and Wings of Desire, but haven't seen much else of Wenders' work. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:11 am |
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Melody wrote:
I love Paris, Texas and Wings of Desire, but haven't seen much else of Wenders' work.
Paris, Texas was interesting but not too satisfying for me. Also, I had heard alot of hype about it, so I was a little disappointed.
Besides that, I've only seen The American Friend, which is kind of a mess. There are a few good scenes, with a decent, although plodding setup. But the ending is horrid and amateurish.
I have Wenders' 1989 Notebook on Cities and Clothes, and
1980's Lightning Over Water (Nick's Film). Both documentaries, the latter concerning the dying Nicholas Ray. Haven't watched them.
Might pick up Don't Come Knocking.
Should probably get Wings of Desire.
But I'm a bit wary of Wenders. |
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| Melody |
| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:50 pm |
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Wings of Desire on the big screen is just gorgeous. They run it now and again at the Univ. of Texas student union and I go every time. I've never watched it on a TV screen -- it would ruin it.
I'll never forget the time I accompanied one of my husbands to see The African Queen on the big screen at the Paramount in Austin. He said he'd seen it on TV several times, but suddenly it was a whole new movie. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:33 pm |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:03 am |
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I'm not sure what to say about Wings of Desire. It presents scads of ideas which are absolutely fascinating, is really interesting in its execution, and seems curiously remote. It is far better than the Nicolas Cage/Meg Ryan film City of Angels which is based on it (How could it not be?). I think it's a film that I could see over and over and see more things in it. And it asks that eternal question, what the Hell possessed Wim Wenders to put Peter Falk in this movie?
I was really surprised when Premiere ranked it as the #2 film of the 80's when I'd never heard of it. Raging Bull was #1 and I think The Right Stuff was #3, but I can see it. (I'd rank The Right Stuff ahead of Raging Bull and Wings of Desire, but I'm a rabid space enthusiast.) It says something other films don't try to say, shows the world from an original perspective, and is a very interesting and ambitious film. I'm amazed anyone thought of making a movie like this.
It's one of those films that challenges my way of thinking (Talk to Her is another one), forces me to see the world from another point of view, and I'd take it over a thousand caper films and cookie-cutter romances. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:19 am |
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| An alternate title of Wings of Desire is Der Himmel über Berlin. Now that's strange. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:46 am |
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Kinky Boots is a reasonably good British film of a type we've seen a lot of lately. I'd say it's not as good as The Full Monty and Brassed Off!, but getting close to Mrs. Henderson Presents and better than Calendar Girls. The only thing that makes this film above the ordinary is the performance of Chiwetel Ejiofor as the drag queen Lola. He's the only three-dimensional character in the film, is believable, and steals the film. He can't sing, but it doesn't matter too much.
Oh, the film is about a Northampton shoe factory which is facing bankruptcy from foreign competion, until it's inexperienced owner finds fortune and fame by investing his reputation in fancy footwear, which makes this a shoe film. If I ever get in charge of a specialty forum, you know exactly what to expect.
Sarah-Jane Potts is sweet as the obligatory love interest, but I really sympathized with the rejected fiancee. How would you react if your fiance made vital financial decisions without even consulting you? (If he told you the truth to start with, you might even support him.)
The film's nice, but I really recommend The Full Monty and Brassed Off! for films on similar subjects that have real bite to them. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:27 am |
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Don't Come Knocking displays the worst of Sam Shepard's self-indulgence. It's flabby and talky and, at its core, rather uninteresting. And Jessica Lange's "work" detracts from her performance.
However, the photography is stunning, even on the home screen DVD. |
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| Harry |
| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:53 pm |
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On the few occasions that I go to a video/DVD rental shop I can almost never find anything in the current selections that I have any desire to see. But when I go to the cheap section and pick a movie I've never heard of, with a no-name cast, I'm often pleasantly surpirsed.
e.g. Bring It On and Drum Line, .
No pretensions, no bullshit, just solid entertainment! |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:53 pm |
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Harry wrote: e.g. Bring It On and Drum Line, .
Drum Line I'll give you, couldn't tell you anyone from that most forgettable (regrettably) flick. But, Kirsten Dunst (Bring It On) a "no name"? I ain't goin' for it.
lady_w -- get those L'Enfant thoughts flowing, girl. I still find myself thinking about scenes and images and situations presented by the film. Remarkable. Anyone else rent and/or see it? |
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| shannon |
| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:28 pm |
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| I tried to watch it about a month ago, but I couldn't make it even to the one-hour point. Nothing against the film, I just wasn't in the mood for something so deliberately-paced, to put it nicely. I still have it on my hard drive. I've been meaning to retry, but I have yet to fully prep myself. |
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