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| Marj |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:27 pm |
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jeremy wrote: Brazil is one of my favourites and fantastic blend of Python, Kafka and 1984. I hope you didn't see the 'happy ending' studio cut.
Jeremy - How can you tell the difference? I mean before you've seen it. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:06 am |
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Hopefully, the DVD cover will tell you. Otherwise, you might want to look at the running time.
IMDb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/alternateversions says following:
Quote: There are at least three different versions of Brazil. The original 142 minutes European release, a shorter 132-minutes prepared by Gilliam for the American release and another different version, nicknamed the Sheinberg Edit, from Universal's then boss Sid Sheinberg, against whom Terry Gilliam had to fight to have his version released, A.K.A. the 'Love Conquers All' version.
From Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_differences_in_the_versions_of_Brazil
Quote: During the film's American release, handled by Universal Studios, Universal's then-head Sidney Sheinberg wanted the film edited for a clichéd Hollywood movie. The film's director, Terry Gilliam, didn't want this to happen and pressured Sheinberg to release it uncut, causing it to be Sheinberg's most famous case. The edited version was pushed aside for a 131-minute version that was released in US theaters and on VHS and Laserdisc. A longer, 141-minute European edit of the film was released on DVD for the first time in 1999 by the Criterion Collection; the Sheinberg edit, dubbed "Love Conquers All" by Gilliam, was also included with this DVD release. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:17 am |
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The term 'directors cut' is much abused these days. Often referring to a bloated and indulgent version of the film pushed out on DVD to pick up some extra sales. Let's face it, for the vast majority of films the concept of the director as auteur is not appropriate.
However, two films wroth seeking out for the directors cut are Brazil and Ridley Scott's Blade Runner - both courtesy of some heavy-handed studio interference. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:44 am |
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I had heard so much about Gary Graver over the years. He was a legend. First of all, I had no idea he was that old. Secondly, a number of people told me that he was the only person who could have completed some of the lost films from Welles' final years.
Really a shock. Let me know if you find out more. |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:49 am |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:58 am |
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| Jeremy, the first 10 to 15 minutes are very Monty Pythonish, but most of the movie is in the mode of 1984. I thought I saw two distinct endings, a happy one, and a sad one. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:01 am |
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| It was about 145 minutes long. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:39 am |
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| The 2002 Turkish movie Distant directed by Nuri Ceylan is about a professional photographer living in Istanbul and his interactions with an unemployed young man from his village who comes to Istanbul and stays with him, as well as his with his ex-wife. Very sensitively directed, and very realistic. Won the Grand Prize of the Jury in Cannes and the Special Jury Prize at the Chicago International Film Festival. |
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| Trish |
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Saw some worthy rentals - recently
1. Water - Foreign film from India - depicting the life of a child bride (of only eight) in 1938 forced to live among the other discarded widows when her much older husband dies. Its quite an eyeopener
2. Sorry, Haters - Yikes!!! disturbing, well acted - you'll never look at Robin Wright Penn the same after
3. Akeelah and the Bee - entertaining (if not somewhat predictable) film - a good family flick
4. 49 Up, considering I hadn't seen (but had heard of) the other films in the UP series - it was very engaging , interesting
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Beowulf and Grendel - which was mostly unwatchable, silly, or undecipherable (due to strong Scottish accents) |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:23 am |
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"Eye opener" is the right word for Deepa Mehta's Water, which is the Canadian entry for Foreign Language film Oscar this year.
I also liked Akeelah and the Bee a lot. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:05 am |
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| Water is a deserving foreign Oscar entry, but I have the feeling that this year is Almodovar's (who is equally deserving, just for different reasons). |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:41 am |
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Trish wrote: Beowulf and Grendel - which was mostly unwatchable, silly, or undecipherable (due to strong Scottish accents)
BTW, does anyone recall the title of a comedy of about ten years ago, set in Glasgow, about an ice cream truck salesman vs. the local mob? It was a lot of fun. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:53 am |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:13 am |
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| Are you thinking of Bill Forsythe's Comfort And Joy, which has got to be 20 years old. |
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