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| mo_flixx |
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Marilyn wrote: Favorite DDL - The Age of Innocence. Also loved The Last of the Mohicans--very romantic in that.
Agree.
I liked DDL in his leading man parts. When he became a character actor (and an unattractive one at that), I lost interest. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:18 pm |
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lady wakasa wrote: A little more about Atonement :
mo_flixx wrote: the different pasts shown
The more I hear about the movie, the more I think this "flashback" stuff isn't in the book.
And I hate to call them "flashbacks." They are more "pieces of time" and kind of like playing cards which you can reshuffle for a difference outcome each time. |
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| inlareviewer |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:16 am |
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Broadcast Film Critics pick No Country for drammer, Juno for comedic, Daniel Day-Lewisohn, Christie Julie, Chiguhr Bardem, Gone Mommy Amy, and the Hairspray cast got the main top actables, The Brothers Coen directorials, Cody Diablo (who missed the ceremony, initally thinking they were being struck, then stuck in a biz meeting) for scribe, and Diving Bell for ForLangFilm, Sicko for Docu, and more:
http://theenvelope.latimes.com/awards/critics/env-et-critics8jan08145817,0,3336713.story?coll=env-home-top-headlines
It's official: No Gilded Globules party/banquet/feste/whatever. A barebones press conference announcement program:
http://theenvelope.latimes.com/awards/globes/env-barebonesglobes-07jan07,0,65862.story?coll=env-home-top-headlines
On the Buzz front, Best Picture has NCoFm unshakably a certain nominee, Juno and Atonement (despite some lag), all-but-certain nominees. There Will Be Blood and Into the Wild at the moment outstrip Michael Clayton and Sweeney Todd (but these two pop in and out of contention daily); Diving Bell, Eastern Promises and the two Denzel pix still in there plugging. Plus, Charlie Wilson's War ups its cash take by the week, which is as always the name of this game.
DD-L remains the Master Thespian To Beat, Le Depp and George The Chanel of Heartthrobs poised as His Biggest Threats, Mr. Slurpsome, um, McAvoy finally getting Serious Attention from the Pollsters and Buzzities, American Washington about to be overtaken by Viggo! All Of You! Literally!. Lars Gosling, Into the Hirsch, Tommy Lee Elah, No Country Brolin and (yes!) Diving Bell Amalric at present cropping up more than hitherto.
Prima Donna continues a trilateral back-and-forth Mortal Lock between La Cotillard, Christie Julie and Juno Page, with Marianne Jolie about to overtake Keira Skinniest. Enchanted Amy keeps moving in and out of favor. Still among the Outside Possibles are Laura Linney Savage, Helena Bonham Lovett, The Brave Jodie One and, insane but true, Elizabeth Tudor Blanchett Redux (which nobody is happy about, but nobody expected the SAGGY nod, either). Tracy Blonskyblad's Younger Actress win tonight at the Broadcast Film Critics may up her chances, but she's a Longshot.
Supphose Actor, Actress -- as Bill Murray used to say, who cares? Well, someone does -- Snr. Bardem just re-instated his Mortal Lock, Hol Halbrook, Hillip Pheymour Soffman, Mr. Wilkinson and Li'l Affleck are holding firm. There is a Score of Outside Chancers for this award, from The Boy Who Knocked Up Juno to Edna Travoltablad.
The supphose wommyn are the quirkiest single race, due to The Briony Factor; the fact that nobody knows yet how much love Hairspray and Juno may engender beyond the obvious; and because a NCfOM sweep might catch Kelly Macdonald up in its wake. Right now, Gone Mommy Amy, Bob-Cate Dylan Blanchett and Swilda Tinton are Certain Nominees, never discount the Power of Deevine Ruby, and The Child Briony seems the surest Atonement player in this field...today, anyway.
Director will be more determinable after tomorrow's DGA announcement. The Bros. Coen, His Schnabelity, Le Depp's Alter Ego and Joe Wright seem the likeliest nominees. However, Anderson Paul Thomas, Penn Sean, Scott Ridley, Lumet Sidney and, yes, Virginia, There Is A Cronenberg aren't out of contention until one or any of them bump any other one of the aforementioned, save the Coens -- like everything else this year, it's mostly open to upset. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:25 am |
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| All my personal faves in all categories are in there somewhere, so I could be satisfied with the Oscars this year if the voters comply. |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:07 am |
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Thanks for the update, Inla. I'm gonna' continue yelling about this until people get it:
Javier Bardem is NOT a Supporting Actor. He's the only possible Lead Actor in NCFOM. His part is bigger, longer, more central and more interesting (by far) than anyone else's. Giving Tommy Lee Jones lead billing does not make him the lead actor.
I have to go take a pill. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:42 am |
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Marilyn wrote: Favorite DDL - The Age of Innocence. Also loved The Last of the Mohicans--very romantic in that.
don't forget him as a sexy philandering doctor in The Umbearable Lightness of being |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:44 am |
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| It's hardly a unique situation, though. Seems like a lot of lead actors have had to settle for a supporting-actor award, just because the field--or the film--was so crowded. (And who remembers, outside the reference books?) |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:41 am |
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I went to see NCfOM lagain last night, afer finishing the book.
Nothing in life is perfect, and there may be a very slight sin of omission - but I gotta admit I just can't find any real holes in it. %^D |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:35 am |
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The whole question of who's a lead and who is supporting falls into the realm of the producers' and studios' crap shoot aimed at garnering the most awards possible.
I gave up making sense out of it a long time ago. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:36 am |
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lady wakasa wrote: I went to see NCfOM lagain last night, afer finishing the book.
Nothing in life is perfect, and there may be a very slight sin of omission - but I gotta admit I just can't find any real holes in it. %^D
What did you think of the book? Just curious because Marc _didn't_ like the book, but Taos' cranky critic did.
Any thoughts on comparing the book and the movie? |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:28 pm |
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The movie is very close to the book, with maybe two things changed around.
The one thing that might cause an issue is that okay, might be a spoiler for some Bell's voice is drastically reduced in the movie; in fact, in general more is explained in the book. (Not like the book is crystal clear, but.) For some people, the minimalism works, for some, it doesn't. That's the one thing that's clearly an innovation of the Coens, that changes the flavor of the story. It's also the main thing that makes a lot of people misunderstand what's happening, methinks - Bell just doesn't seem to have that much invested in the narrative (and frankly, it's a bit hard to understand some of TLJ's dialogue in places) so they miss that this is his story.
I think I liked the movie better, but it may be because I saw it first. It does seem a little richer, somehow. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:30 pm |
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| If a role is christened Supporting or Lead because of its marketing position instead of its position in the film, then let's call Bardem's performance the best Walk-On of the year and really maximize his chances of standing out in his field. This example of labeling sleight of hand won't keep me up at night; it's just an example of outright inaccuracy. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:30 pm |
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The Directors Guild of America announced their picks.
Nominations include Paul Thomas Anderson for There Will Be Blood, Joel and Ethan Coen for No Country for Old Men, Tony Gilroy for Michael Clayton, Sean Penn for Into the Wild, and Julian Schnabel for The Diving Bell and the Butterfly. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:53 pm |
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I guess I'm in the minority having never liked Daniel Day Lewis after the left foot and avoiding him in everything else......
I think the title, No Country for Old Men.......explains that the story is really Bell's story.
Everyone seems to have forgotten Lust/Caution......one of my early favorites. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:07 pm |
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befade, it's very strange that Lust, Caution didn't get more push, but then again, considering Mr. Lee's last fillum and the kerfuffle over it, and how many people in AMPAS remain defensive, bitter, idiots and/or all three, maybe not.
lshap, you're welcome. Re: Chiguhr, I hear that. The studio decided to market Bardem thus, putting lead-consideration energy behind Brolin. This has obviously paid award dividends in spades for No Country's Hitman and done bupkis for its AntiHero. And Tommy Lee's presence didn't help by confusing the issue for publicists and Aclademites.
The inclusion of Tony Gilroy and absence of Tim Burton in the DGA noms ups Michael's chances and upends Sweeney's in the BestPic/Direct races. However, since AMPAS BestPic and BestDirect slots don't always line up come Nom Time -- there's usually at least one discrepancy per year there --that may be the case with Burton now relegated to Spoiler. There's still Cronenberg -- there's always Cronenberg -- but the most likely Eastern Promises nods are Lead Actor and maybe Screenplay nods, and never underestimate the Geezer Factor within the Director's branch, which might slip Nichols Mike in as Charlie Wilson's War continues its upscale box office climb. Doubtful, but, again, this is Anything-Might-Occur year.
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