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yambu |
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:32 pm |
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Matewan is a mess. Based on a true event - a violent coal miners strike in 1920's WVA - Chris Cooper, in his first film role, is the plain-talking"Wobbly" organizer, who gets to deliver a great plain-talking speech. But not even James Earl Jones, a coal worker brimming with integrity, can save this obvious, draggy yarn. There is a young preacher - God's wunderkind, apparently - who delivers a sermon so juvenile, it should have driven out his congregation. The two strike breaker thugs (one of them is NYPD's Det. Medavoy) are just nasty, nasty. There are three scenes of them having meals in their reluctant boarder's home, where they gleefully taunt their host (though they don't ever knock the food). Then, for no apparent reason, they show up drunk at the poor kid's sermon. I mean, these guys are nasty.
To make sure you understand that all these strikers are in this thing together, an Italian mandoliener draws in a white guitarist and a black harmonica player, and together they make spontaneous harmony.
In between, Cooper spends lot of time stoking campfires while ruminating, in a home-spun way, on the workers of the world. |
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:46 pm |
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Gary - the Canuck-ish package has arrived! Thank you very much. %^} |
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marantzo |
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:57 pm |
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You are more than welcome, Lady. |
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Ghulam |
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:10 pm |
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yambu wrote: Matewan is a mess. Based on a true event - a violent coal miners strike in 1920's WVA - Chris Cooper, in his first film role, is the plain-talking"Wobbly" organizer, who gets to deliver a great plain-talking speech. But not even James Earl Jones, a coal worker brimming with integrity, can save this obvious, draggy yarn. There is a young preacher - God's wunderkind, apparently - who delivers a sermon so juvenile, it should have driven out his congregation. The two strike breaker thugs (one of them is NYPD's Det. Medavoy) are just nasty, nasty. There are three scenes of them having meals in their reluctant boarder's home, where they gleefully taunt their host (though they don't ever knock the food). Then, for no apparent reason, they show up drunk at the poor kid's sermon. I mean, these guys are nasty.
To make sure you understand that all these strikers are in this thing together, an Italian mandoliener draws in a white guitarist and a black harmonica player, and together they make spontaneous harmony.
In between, Cooper spends lot of time stoking campfires while ruminating, in a home-spun way, on the workers of the world.
I have not enjoyed any of John Sayles' movies. Does anyone else think he may be overrated? |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:15 pm |
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Ghulam wrote: yambu wrote: Matewan is a mess. Based on a true event - a violent coal miners strike in 1920's WVA - Chris Cooper, in his first film role, is the plain-talking"Wobbly" organizer, who gets to deliver a great plain-talking speech. But not even James Earl Jones, a coal worker brimming with integrity, can save this obvious, draggy yarn. There is a young preacher - God's wunderkind, apparently - who delivers a sermon so juvenile, it should have driven out his congregation. The two strike breaker thugs (one of them is NYPD's Det. Medavoy) are just nasty, nasty. There are three scenes of them having meals in their reluctant boarder's home, where they gleefully taunt their host (though they don't ever knock the food). Then, for no apparent reason, they show up drunk at the poor kid's sermon. I mean, these guys are nasty.
To make sure you understand that all these strikers are in this thing together, an Italian mandoliener draws in a white guitarist and a black harmonica player, and together they make spontaneous harmony.
In between, Cooper spends lot of time stoking campfires while ruminating, in a home-spun way, on the workers of the world.
I have not enjoyed any of John Sayles' movies. Does anyone else think he may be overrated?
Count me as a Sayles-is-overrated delegate. |
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ehle64 |
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:51 pm |
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I just TiVO'd Limbo the other day. Can't wait to revisit it. I've met John Sayles. Do I like his films, hell yeah. You people and your bandwagons are sickening. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:03 pm |
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The Sunshine State was a very good movie. I just re-watched it about a week ago and it was just as good, if not better than the first time I saw it. |
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yambu |
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:43 pm |
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I liked Baby It's You. Love the song, by the Shirelles. In fact, I just bought it.
Shala,lala,laala...... |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:15 am |
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Loved Lone State and Limbo. Absolutely loathed the "breakthrough" film Return of the Secaucus Seven, where the neo-Cassavetes improvisations were so amateurish as to be painful. It was unofficially remade and improved tenfold by Lawrence Kasdan as The Big Chill. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:16 am |
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yambu wrote: I liked Baby It's You. Love the song, by the Shirelles. In fact, I just bought it.
Shala,lala,laala......
Love the song. Don't love the movie. Dull, dull, dull. |
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:55 am |
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billyweeds wrote: yambu wrote: I liked Baby It's You. Love the song, by the Shirelles. In fact, I just bought it.
Shala,lala,laala......
Love the song. Don't love the movie. Dull, dull, dull.
The 1969 somewhat psychedelicized Smith cover of Baby It's You is great. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:45 am |
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I tried to watch Return of the Secaucus Seven many years ago. I may have lasted 20 minutes. Strickly for vomiting, as my beloved late mother would say.
Though I enjoyed The Big Chill very much, the surrogate baby thing was wretchedly gag inducing. |
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Marilyn |
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:24 am |
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The best John Sayles film is, IMO, The Secret of Roan Inish. But I am not a Sayles fan in general.
That said, I liked Secaucus Seven and Matewan both because of their sincerity. They both have the touch of fable about them that makes Roan Inish such a delight. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:25 am |
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Marilyn wrote: The best John Sayles film is, IMO, The Secret of Roan Inish. But I am not a Sayles fan in general.
That said, I liked Secaucus Seven and Matewan both because of their sincerity. They both have the touch of fable about them that makes Roan Inish such a delight.
I have to watch The Secret of Roan Inish some day. Must admit the title has put me way off. |
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Marilyn |
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:30 am |
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It's a fairytale, Billy, and a really great family film. Roger Ebert showed it at Ebertfest a couple of years ago and Sayles and Maggie Renzi, his wife and producer, talked about it. His wife really can talk, so Sayles barely got a word in, but it was interesting to hear how the film came to be.
I missed Honeydripper (and Sayles) at the CIFF this year because of illness, but Shane went and enjoyed it. |
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