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mo_flixx
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:00 am Reply with quote
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Earl wrote:
Ghulam wrote:
Kristin Scott Thomas is excellent in Philippe Claudel's I've Loved You So Long. The movie is enjoyable for the most part, the story is somewhat traditional but warm and full of empathizable emotions. The denouement is a bit soapish but there is enough good in the movie to make it worthwhile.
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Glad to see this comment. That's the one I should have seen on Sunday instead of A Christmas Tale. Hope it's still there this coming Sunday so I can see it then.


Both movies have something to offer. The theme (the awkwardness of a long exiled family member returning to the fold) is common to both. I think both movies are worth seeing.
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yambu
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:53 am Reply with quote
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daffy wrote:
Befade wrote:
Jude Law stood out for me in Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.

Stood out is right: He was horrible. The only time I have to say that about him.
I'll never go near this movie. The book was on the NYT best seller list for four years. Half way through it I fired it at the wall and cracked the plaster.
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Befade
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:56 am Reply with quote
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Stood out is right: He was horrible. The only time I have to say that about him.


Daffy..........I was talking about my first glimpse of Jude Law. It was WOW!

Lorne........Are you and Earl the only ones who have seen The Reader? David Kross (German) played the boy and he deserves some props too.

I would have passed on Kate in Revolutionary Road........but would have given recognition to Michael Shannon for supporting: he gives credit to the myth of the crazy sage.[/quote]

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Yambu.......You reign as resident effete reader. I loved In the Garden. Have you read The Reader or Revolutionary Road? I'm sure you haven't read Marley & Me.

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yambu
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:24 pm Reply with quote
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Befade wrote:
Yambu.......You reign as resident effete reader. I loved In the Garden. Have you read The Reader or Revolutionary Road? I'm sure you haven't read Marley & Me.
See me in the Reading Room.
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lady wakasa
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See me in the Reading Room.


Oooh ~ an assignation...

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Marj
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billyweeds wrote:
But someone pleeeeeze tell me. Why was Jon Hamm's victory not on the show? Or did I miss it? Or what? Please inform ASAP.

And, oh, also, why was Damages not nominated for a single thing?


I'm reading fast so I hope I'm not repeating another post.

First, Jon Hamm didn't win. Now I can't remember who did. But you can be sure I will once I log out. Oh, wait. I think he was grouped with mini-series and specials. Gabriel Byrne won. [I think]

Damages wasn't nominated because it wasn't eligible. The second season just started. I think there was a 18 month lag between seasons.
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lissa
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:36 pm Reply with quote
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lady wakasa wrote:
yambu wrote:
See me in the Reading Room.


Oooh ~ an assignation...


Or a summons... Shocked

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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:58 pm Reply with quote
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Marj wrote:
billyweeds wrote:
But someone pleeeeeze tell me. Why was Jon Hamm's victory not on the show? Or did I miss it? Or what? Please inform ASAP.

And, oh, also, why was Damages not nominated for a single thing?


I'm reading fast so I hope I'm not repeating another post.

First, Jon Hamm didn't win. Now I can't remember who did. But you can be sure I will once I log out. Oh, wait. I think he was grouped with mini-series and specials. Gabriel Byrne won. [I think]

Damages wasn't nominated because it wasn't eligible. The second season just started. I think there was a 18 month lag between seasons.
That's it on Damages, next year will be its time. Hamm and Byrne were both up for Leading Actor in a Drama, and Byrne took it.

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yambu
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lissa wrote:
lady wakasa wrote:
yambu wrote:
See me in the Reading Room.


Oooh ~ an assignation...


Or a summons... Shocked
.....and you two I'll see in the Principal's office.
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Joe Vitus
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yambu wrote:
Doubt could not have been any closer to my own early days, having done eight years in a Bronx Catholic grade school in the '50's. I recognized the church interior as that of St. Gabriel's in Riverdale.

The film was extremely powerful for me, getting all the atmospherics exactly right. Streep, all pinched-face and on constant guard against any slight deviation from her imposed order, who rules by terror "because it works" and never with love, is that severe autocrat who I and my contemporaries had in class at least once. What was a given was that, while the Fr. Boyle character and others may have disapproved of her, no one challenged her authority to run her fiefdom the way she saw fit; and looking back, this was the root of so much abuse handed out to kids every day.

Viola Davis, playing a black mother, gives us only one scene, but it is the best supporting role I've seen in a year. In it, the movie turns sharply, and that's all I dare say. kudos to John Patrick Shanley.


I always enjoy your take on movies, so I've had to consider why this post did not interest me more in this particular one, and why after I read it I was more sure than ever that there was nothing in this particular movie for me.

Then I realized: it is because your experiences must have been pre-Vatican II, and there is quite a gulf seperating almost every experience with the Church prior to and post that important Church Council.

Doubt is theoretically addressing current issues, isn't it? If the movie resonates with your childhood experiences, that suggests to me that it fails in its intention, and that it has more to do with adults of previous generations remembering their Catholic childhoods, than with addressing the issues of the Church today.

I'm not saying the movie is worthless as a result. Obviously it spoke to you, and speaks to others. I just can't see anything in it that would be relevant to me. Especially since it cops out by not answering its own questions (yes, I know that's the gist of the enterprise—I'd call it the gimmick—but that excuse doesn't satisfy me; I'm not interested in Last Year at Marienbad: In the Chapel).

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lissa
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.....and you two I'll see in the Principal's office.


Dang...no dungeon?

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Doubt is theoretically addressing current issues, isn't it? If the movie resonates with your childhood experiences, that suggests to me that it fails in its intention, and that it has more to do with adults of previous generations remembering their Catholic childhoods, than with addressing the issues of the Church today.


Doubt takes place around 1963, and a good part of the movie is about the conflict between the old school and the new school. This is still an issue today because so much of the older clergy including the current pope entered the church before Vatican II.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:11 pm Reply with quote
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Ah, totally did not know that. (Obviously.) Never mind.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:19 pm Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
This is still an issue today because so much of the older clergy including the current pope entered the church before Vatican II.


Not really. If you've been to a Catholic church in the past forty years, or even, heck, have been inside one, you'll notice radical differences. And though I went to pretty conservative schools, and in grammar schools had some teachers who weren't up on the lastest educational methods (very trying since I have a learning disability), it was a radically different experience from what pre-Vatican II kids describe. I don't think the old style has much influence at all, even acknowleging what a solid bit of granite Benedict seems to be. (He's no John Paul II, sad to say.)

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