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lady wakasa
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:44 pm Reply with quote
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inlareviewer wrote:
Trouble in Paradise, that's another favorite romantic comedy. Also, The Palm Beach Story.

I really liked Adventureland. It really did deserve a wider audience. Here's hoping it does well on home video.


I'd actually say that romantic comedy is the successor to screwball. Something like noir being the successor to German expressionism (although the link is probably stronger with the comedies). And Trouble in Paradise is one of the bridges between the two (although I'd put it a little more in the romantic comedy camp).

But that's just me...


EDIT: and I just saw that Joe basically said all that - although I'd say The Philadelphia Story is screwball.

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Marj
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:50 pm Reply with quote
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whiskeypriest wrote:
I actually kind of enjoyed both Sleepless in Seattle and You've Got Mail, in much the same way I might enjoy a bag of Doritos. Of course, my "guilty pleasure" sort of fondness for the female lead actress in those movies may have a lot to do with that.

I enjoyed definitely, Maybe, a little bit more. Maybe like a really great pizza. It's lunchtime in Phoenix, by the way.


I think Whiskey makes a good point. There certainly is a kind of guilty pleasure enjoyed by both Sleepless and YGM. I'm not sure why that is, but I do agree that it's true.

I could not wrap my brain around Defintely, Maybe. I'm not sure why. I may try again, someday. And since I haven't had lunch, it's lunchtime here as well.
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Marj
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:02 pm Reply with quote
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Joe, as soon as I finish some work and I can locate it, I'm going to send you the 1994 revival of Carousel. Then you can decide how good a singer Julie ought to be.

Btw, I finally found the Rebecca Kilgore CD so I'll send that too.
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inlareviewer
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:05 pm Reply with quote
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Interesting points all around. To me, screwball denotes a decidedly insane bent to characters, situations and/or tone, and am not sure that Philadelphia Story in either its stage or screen incarnations fully possesses that outside edge-- but it's certainly close to nutty. Screwmantic comeballdy, perhaps.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:24 pm Reply with quote
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Marj wrote:
Joe, as soon as I finish some work and I can locate it, I'm going to send you the 1994 revival of Carousel. Then you can decide how good a singer Julie ought to be.

Btw, I finally found the Rebecca Kilgore CD so I'll send that too.


I own it. The Billy on that recording is weaker. Jackman may be the best proposition for the role in decades.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:30 pm Reply with quote
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By the way, I think you have a better ear than I do.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:30 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Marj. Too bad.

Very much beg to differ, Billy. "If I Loved You" requires a very strong singer, and all the voices of Carousel need something close to operatic talent. With musical comedy precision.


I would certainly agree that all the voices should be excellent. But of all the principals, I think Julie is in least dire need of a great singer. "What's the Use of Wond'rin'?" is almost a spoken song and "If I Loved You" can be carried by Billy if necessary. Just sayin'.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:33 pm Reply with quote
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I get your point. But as one who hits the sour notes regularly with "If I Loved You" at a piano bar, I insist the song is impossibly hard and no mere mortal is capable of rendering it justice. Smile

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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:42 pm Reply with quote
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Oooh, before we leave the off topic RomComs the Men Here Liked subject, I should mention Shakespeare in Love.

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Marc
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ADVENTURELAND, GOODBYE SOLO, THE HURT LOCKER and DRAG ME TO HELL are my favorite films of 2009 so far.
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billyweeds
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Haven't yet seen Goodbye Solo, but my favorites of the movies I've seen are The Hurt Locker, Observe and Report, and Up.
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whiskeypriest
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:05 pm Reply with quote
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Relevant to Julie and Julia, or is it Julia and Julie? Anyway, I am posting it primarily because I get a kick out of the penultimate paragrph.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/dining/29movie.html?_r=1&hpw

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inlareviewer
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:55 pm Reply with quote
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whiskeypriest wrote:
Relevant to Julie and Julia, or is it Julia and Julie? Anyway, I am posting it primarily because I get a kick out of the penultimate paragrph.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/dining/29movie.html?_r=1&hpw
YES!!! LOL!!!

It's been a long haul to get there from this


let alone this


'bout time shellfish got some respect.

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Marj
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:04 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Marj. Too bad.

Very much beg to differ, Billy. "If I Loved You" requires a very strong singer, and all the voices of Carousel need something close to operatic talent. With musical comedy precision.


I would certainly agree that all the voices should be excellent. But of all the principals, I think Julie is in least dire need of a great singer. "What's the Use of Wond'rin'?" is almost a spoken song and "If I Loved You" can be carried by Billy if necessary. Just sayin'.


What's the Use of Wond'rin' is often given to beginning singers as it goes right up the scale smoothly, right over one's break.

And I agree Billy. Billy could sing "If I Loved You," if necessary. (It really is a hard song.) But this is not just a song. It's a scene! And that would be a shame. I think Anne Hathaway can handle it.
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inlareviewer
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:03 pm Reply with quote
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La Belle Anne hasn't been signed yet, but it gave me hope when the item appeared in the Envelope in, like, April or May, that Huge Ackman was negotiating with her for the role, having thought it an obvious choice since their joint appearance at the opening of the Racsocast. She has that little kid face that could stare up at him and break everyone's heart. As for being able to sing it, if she could handle Anna Maria Alberghetti's high notes -- which she did, beautifully, in the Carnival concert opposite Stokes -- she can handle Jan Clayton's high notes.

From Future Current Film to Present Current Film: How is it that Evangeline Lilly's appearance in The Hurt Locker outstrips the bulk of her seasons on Lost, put tewgither? Amazing.

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