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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:22 am Reply with quote
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A strange current phenomenon (strange to me, anyway) is that AMC (American Movie Classics) will not spell out even the mildest curse words in their closed captions. "Damn" is transcribed as "d___." And everything from there up (or down). It's quite amusing, seeing as how every other channel (including non-premium ones like F/X) fully transcribes words as salty as "shit."
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carrobin
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:09 pm Reply with quote
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BBC America, which is showing the BAFTAs tonight, devoted the day to "English Gentleman" films. What were they? In order of screening, "The Age of Innocence," "The Tailor of Panama," "Quiz Show," "The Edge," and "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" (yes, the Costner one). Pretty lame representation of "English gentlemen," especially considering that several are American characters played by English actors, and they're all American movies. (And was the Sheriff of Nottingham really a gentleman?)
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:41 pm Reply with quote
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The Age of Innocence is really baffling.

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marantzo
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:09 pm Reply with quote
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I guess they meant that they spoke English.
Joe Vitus
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:06 pm Reply with quote
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The English would probably even disagree with that!

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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:17 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
The English would probably even disagree with that!


LOL.
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carrobin
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:14 pm Reply with quote
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I watched "Quiz Show" because I'd never seen it and it caught my interest when I tuned in. Good movie. There was one character that sounded like Martin Scorsese and had Scorsese eyebrows, but otherwise didn't really resemble him--of course I checked the IMDb and sure enough, it was. He's changed over the years, but the eyebrows and voice stay the same.
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bartist
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:24 am Reply with quote
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Caught Terry Gilliam's latest t'other night, The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, with Heath Ledger's final performance and then various dream versions of himself played by Johnny Depp, Jude Law, and Colin Farrell. As a showcase of talent, the film is not entirely unwatchable, and the second half definitely gets a second wind in terms of visual artistry -- Gilliam can be relied on to throw some arresting images up there on the celluloid canvas. But, basically, Shakespeare's famous definition of life comes to mind, "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." You can also see Andrew Garfield emoting and oozing various unpleasant things that come off of beginning actors who are overly excited to be on the set with Terry Gilliam and a bunch of superfamous dudes. And, of course, Christopher Plummer, doing his best to undermine AARP's mission in the world. A ghastly film, really, but somehow I kept watching.

Still haven't seen Quiz Show, so I'm glad to be reminded of the omission, and will quickly remedy. Thanks, Carro. Scorsese does change -- I didn't realize until a second viewing of Taxi Driver, that he was one of the passengers.

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knox
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:51 am Reply with quote
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I haven't seen Quiz Show and wonder why so many missed it. Thanks for giving me a "hook" to motivate renting -- watching for Scorsese and his eyebrows.

I truly hated "Imaginarium" -- mainly the waste of talent, but particularly some scenes where Gilliam attempted to recycle old Python humor, like the policemen dancing and singing and showing their bums. Stuff that was already old and worn out by the Pythons by the mid-70s. Everything in the film is recycled and poorly connected. If Gilliam had crouched down and taken a big dump onto a camera, it would have resulted in better movies than either Tideland or Imaginarium.
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carrobin
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:08 am Reply with quote
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I hadn't seen "Quiz Show" before because I remembered the scandal itself and it seemed a rather lame subject for a film. But there's plenty of tension and conflict as the truth about the show is revealed, layer by layer (reminding me of that staple of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," a charming "glamour" that disguises something that's rather creepy). Ralph Fiennes is excellent as Charles Van Doren, the brilliant scion of a highly respected family who gets tangled in the web and is brought down with a crash--but really, all the actors are terrific.
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Syd
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:30 am Reply with quote
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Paul Scofield is excellent as Charles' father.

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billyweeds
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:35 am Reply with quote
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And John Turturro and Hank Azaria and everyone else, but the movie is rather tame and undramatic IMO. It was a minor disappointment to me without being in any way a bad movie.
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carrobin
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:54 am Reply with quote
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Well, I wasn't expecting to like it and didn't intend to watch, but it caught my interest quickly and I found it pretty compelling. I had to keep watching till the end.
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yambu
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:21 pm Reply with quote
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I remember those quiz show days. There were two shows, both wildly popular. When Marc Van Doren got rolling, he was all anyone was talking about. Ralph Fiennes embodied the person and the national mood.
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bartist
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:14 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks, Knox, for putting it plainer than I did. I think the rest of 3eye is so tired of gilliam, they don't even bother to agree with my pans.

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