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Syd
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Thanks, Knox, for putting it plainer than I did. I think the rest of 3eye is so tired of gilliam, they don't even bother to agree with my pans.


I didn't see the movie. It didn't look very promising.

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It's been a long time since I saw a Gilliam movie--not since I worked at the film class, I think. They seemed busy and confused to me. Though I did like "Brazil."
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You and Me is strange and intermittently wonderful. ... Sylvia Sidney in both movies and Fury proves one of the most eye-opening revelations of my movie life.

I just saw this brief descrip of You and Me on one of these here internets:
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You and Me is worth watching just for the weirdness of it all. There is no film like it in Lang's catalog, it's weird quasi-musical, love story and gangster picture that never really decides what it wants to be. But it is worth it to watch Sylvia Sidney drop some knowledge to a bunch of crooks on why crime doesn't pay. Jeez, she's adorable.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:40 pm Reply with quote
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Last night watched Glen or Glenda for the first time. And while being an Ed Wood movie, yes, it's inept and absurd and weird in a completely unintentional way, it isn't the laugh riot Plan 9 is. Actually, it's kinda sad.

Glen's predicament was also Wood's, and though Wood's performance doesn't convey it, the storyline and images suggest deep, deep anxiety and a desperate wish that the problem would vanish. In fact, the disparity between Glen's surface equanimity (due to Wood's non-acting ability) and the chaos of the rest of the picture (due to Wood's bizarre/inept writing and directing) almost seems a perfect illustration of the subconscious. It's a desperate movie, a movie that through Bela Lugosi's seemingly meaningless presence makes itself into a horror movie, despite not even remotely having a horror movie plot. What does that say about Wood's discomfort? In the companion story, the psychiatrist talks about Alan becoming a happy, normal person when he transitions to Anne, but also describes Anne as a Frankenstein monster—another horror movie touchstone, and again illogically connected to the plot.

It's also just astonishingly brave. Had the movie been made at any point in film history from the late 60's onward, it wouldn't convey the same daring. But emerging from the midst of the 1950's, it's amazing. Though I wonder if that's why neither Glen nor Alan are described as getting any sexual excitement from cross-dressing. Neither seems to be a fetishist.

You can laugh away Plan 9, but Glen or Glenda leaves a much more unresolved feeling. Poor Ed Wood.

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That was a good review. I've never seen Glen or Glenda, but I've seen Plan 9, as well as Orgy of the Dead, which he wrote but didn't direct and which is a much worse movie than Plan 9. It's amazing when a movie would actually be improved by having Ed Wood direct it.

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Thanks, Syd. What was up with Wood (oh, terrible pun; unintentional) and the sex/death issue. Who'd want to attend an orgy of the dead? Yet he produced many variations on the concept.

I wish I could find the link to a paperback porn he published. Someone on a blog reproduced it with its odd back cover blurb which promises the contents will "make you vomit." As the blogger rightly noted, it's quite unusual for porn copy to entice you with that particular offer. I have to believe he wrote it himself.

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Last night I watched 'End of Violence' before retiring. Such a well done movie, so cohesive, believable acting and solid performances to boot! Believable now more than ever..though the idea of surveillance devices being set up as execution machines makes me wonder if they really should have shown this to the powers that be...aren't they bad enough already???

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gromit
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Really enjoyed Kafuka: Inaka isha (2007), a Japanese animated short of Kafka's story Country Doctor.
Creepy, warped, interesting. Very impressive.
I especially liked how the character shapes would elongate bizarrely as they neared the camera.



Tonight I'll get to the other shorts on the disc.
I'll probably re-watch Kafuka's Country Doctor first.
Koji Yamamura won an Oscar for Mt. Head.
I know I've seen it on an anthology, but don't recall at the moment what it is.


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The warping is cool -- couldn't find one with English, but here it is with Spanish subtitles....[then click on "part two" listed on the right, to see whole thing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZBFwaiUZVU

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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:42 pm Reply with quote
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El Barto,
I followed your link to the Spanish language version, and to the right was a link for an English subtitled version. In 3 parts. I can't provide a link, because I'm using a proxy to get to Youtube, so my link is all proxied up. But it's there.

The title is: Kafka's A Country Doctor
Put up by user: DeadInHell255

Mt. Head is there as well.

The houses are great; doors with giant heads attached behind them.


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El Gromito -- muchas gracias por la pellicula con capciones en inglese.

I noticed them after I'd put the link up, should have come back and replaced, but figured anyone who clicked would find the English one. The art is just exquisite.

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I really would encourage anyone interested in animation, Kafuka, or humanity to watch The Country Doctor. It's just 20 minutes long.

Mt. Head is decidedly weird and a bit grotesque. A cherry tree sprouts on a guy's bald head and his dome becomes a public park of sorts.

I'd also rec Child's Metaphysics (2007), from the same year as Country Doctor and in what I'd call his mature style. Actually, the drawings are quite, well, childlike, but convey some very odd, yes, metaphysical ideas. Really a nice combo of Japanese minimalism and Western philosophy in a short animation package. Definitely worth tracking down on Youtube, if available, and unlike Country Doctor the art won't suffer form being shrunken and compressed. It will still look great -- sort of like a surreal Japanese Harold and the Purple Crayon.

Old Crocodile is a fable of sorts and didn't do much for me, though it has a certain low-key, warped charm. Pieces is the last of the 21st C shorts, and is 10 brief surreal vignettes, a few involving weird&lovely kaleidoscopic images. I also liked the one in which an odd bald little character opens his umbrella and it proceeds to rain only under it.

Then there are more Yamamura shorts from the 90's, and another set from the 80's, which I suspect are very short. I'm wondering if they display the same surrealism and wit of the more recent short films. Even though I'm at most halfway into the set, I think it's a pretty great single disc, and I hope I can pick up another copy for my almost college-bound niece. Highly recced.

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On a somewhat related note, check out the Feb. 7 issue of the New Yorker if you are the slightest bit of a fan of Guillermo del Toro. Longish article about the man, his work, and his dream project (bringing H.P. Lovecraft to film). Also an amusing tour of his second house, which is a sort of monster museum along the lines of that late great superfan, Forrest J. Ackerman.

Just hope he can get his weight woes under control. I'd like the man to be around for a while longer!

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bartist wrote:
On a somewhat related note, check out the Feb. 7 issue of the New Yorker if you are the slightest bit of a fan of Guillermo del Toro. Longish article about the man, his work, and his dream project (bringing H.P. Lovecraft to film). Also an amusing tour of his second house, which is a sort of monster museum along the lines of that late great superfan, Forrest J. Ackerman.

Just hope he can get his weight woes under control. I'd like the man to be around for a while longer!




Thanks Bart, I'm a big fan of his, not only in size either, love to read how he comes up with his ideas..

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