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Marc
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:09 am Reply with quote
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THE LONE RANGER is NOT crap.
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billyweeds
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Marc wrote:
THE LONE RANGER is NOT crap.


Word. It is so not crap.
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jeremy
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To borrow Lorne's word, I found it meh and slightly dispiriting. And this is from someone who's a fan of Johnny Depp and doesn't mind the POTC films.

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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:28 am Reply with quote
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jeremy wrote:
To borrow Lorne's word, I found it meh and slightly dispiriting. And this is from someone who's a fan of Johnny Depp and doesn't mind the POTC films.


I more or less hate Johnny Depp and thoroughly despise the POTC films and really liked TLR, so there you are. Horse races, like "they" say.

TLR was really improved by the performances of Tom Wilkinson and--especially--of William Fichtner IMO. Not to mention the pacing, the photography, and the CGI, all totally aces.
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marantzo
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:35 pm Reply with quote
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The first POTC was very good. The following one that I saw, was NOT very good at all. Unlike Billy, I can't think of any movies that I didn't like him in even if the flick was not very good. In my opinion he is an excellent (and unique), actor.
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The Conjuring works very well as a haunted house story which has both creepiness and ghastly happenings, without going overboard on gore. Based on "the true case files of the Warrens" (yeah, right). The cast is good, including Vera Farmiga as Lorraine Warren, the six girls (one Warren, five Perrons), and the film is directed by James Wan, who directed the first Saw film, and is moving in a good direction. If you don't take the true story aspect too seriously (Wan certainly didn't), you should have a good time.

If you see the movie, you'll understand why I wanted to clap my hands.

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marantzo wrote:
The first POTC was very good. The following one that I saw, was NOT very good at all. Unlike Billy, I can't think of any movies that I didn't like him in even if the flick was not very good. In my opinion he is an excellent (and unique), actor.


I enjoyed the first POTC quite a bit. Skipped the others. I find Depp as entertaining as Gary does, but I'm not at all sure he's an excellent or unique actor. He just naturally owns the camera in the way a movie star should. You can't not watch him. That's a kind of talent, but it's not really about acting.

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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:51 am Reply with quote
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Joe--That more or less defines the word "star" as well. A star need not be a good actor or actress. He or she must hold the attention, command the focus, and usually inspire strong feelings one way or the other. Some people love Barbra Streisand, others loathe her. No one feels that way about Shirley Jones. I can't stand Johnny Depp; others love him. Does anyone get that way about Patrick Dempsey?
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marantzo
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:39 am Reply with quote
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Did anyone like Charlton Heston? Paltrow is someone I don't care to see and she's a moron. Travolta had a few good performances and a slew of terrible ones. Why in the hell has Grease (movie), been so beloved. I thought it stunk. Stockard Channing was the only good thing in the movie, not counting some minor roles. Didi wasn't bad. The first time I saw Travolta in a movie was Saturday Night Fever, which i liked. When I saw Grease I left the theatre wondering why he took that role. I thought he'd suffer from his role in Grease. Apparently not. Laughing
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Travolta (my former wife used to call him "travolting") has strong fans and stronger detractors. I have been both on various occasions. Loved him in Saturday Night Fever, Perfect, Pulp Fiction, Urban Cowboy, Hairspray, and Get Shorty. Despised him in almost everything else from The Thin Red Line through The General's Daughter to Battlefield Earth and Basic. Was meh only a couple of times. IOW, he's a star.

Gary, you're wrong about Paltrow. She's very talented although she sounds personally unbearable.
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marantzo
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There was a movie that I liked Paltrow in. It was a rom-com, don't remember the title. She's OK in the Iron Man movies.
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My god, you saw Battlefield Earth ? Shocked
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marantzo wrote:
My god, you saw Battlefield Earth ? Shocked


As much as I could take. (About ten minutes worth.)
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marantzo wrote:
The first POTC was very good. The following one that I saw, was NOT very good at all. Unlike Billy, I can't think of any movies that I didn't like him in even if the flick was not very good. In my opinion he is an excellent (and unique), actor.


Nadirs of Depp: Astronaut's Wife, Secret Window

I liked Paltrow as the math genius's daughter, whatever that was called.

I thought "Guns 'n Moses" was good in several films, at the time I saw them, but when I re-see them years later he seems mediocre. E.g. The Omega Man - it didn't seem so cheesy in the 70s, but now...

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I've always liked Depp and Pitt.
Never saw any of the Pirate films, though Depp apaprently modeled his Capt. Jack Sparrow look on ... Keith Richards -- which is cool.

Heston is fairly clunky as an actor, but has presence.
I always find his turn in A Touch of Evil really weird, with moments when he's real good and others when he seems about to flop. I love The Omega Man. One of the few films where 70's cheesiness really enhances the whole affair. It almost reminds me of those Vincent Price Edgar Allan Poe films of that era. I also like Soylent Green.

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