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billyweeds
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:08 am Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
Never saw Interiors and never will, but i intend to see Blue Jasmine.


I too am eager to sees Blue Jasmine. Woody Allen has remade Interiors twice under the titles September and Another Woman. Neither was quite as awful as the original but they are both more or less unwatchable. Still worse are the more recent fiascos Hollywood Ending, The Curse of the Jade Scorpion, Anything Else, and Whatever Works. All completely--and literally--unwatchable by me. When Woody Allen is bad there's no one worse.

I also detested Deconstructing Harry, which, incredibly to me, has its fans.
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Joe Vitus
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Billy, what did you think of Everyone Says I Love You? I never saw it. Am I missing a Woody Allen movie worth looking at? Is it something a movie musical buff should have viewed at least once?

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billyweeds wrote:
marantzo wrote:
Never saw Interiors and never will, but i intend to see Blue Jasmine.


I too am eager to sees Blue Jasmine. Woody Allen has remade Interiors twice under the titles September and Another Woman. Neither was quite as awful as the original but they are both more or less unwatchable. Still worse are the more recent fiascos Hollywood Ending, The Curse of the Jade Scorpion, Anything Else, and Whatever Works. All completely--and literally--unwatchable by me. When Woody Allen is bad there's no one worse.

I also detested Deconstructing Harry, which, incredibly to me, has its fans.


I wouldn't call myself a fan of Deconstructing Harry, but it was goofy entertainment that didn't take itself seriously. I'd take that kind of featherweight fun over the portentous boulder of laughs that was Interiors.

Funny, as a major Woody fan, I've somehow avoided seeing September, Another Woman, Hollywood Ending and Anything Else. More luck than skill. Or maybe I've developed a proximity-alert for bad Woody Allen flics. Unfortunately, my Spidey-sense wasn't tingling when I saw Whatever Works, which proved that Woody's talent was running on fumes from the expired cheese in the script.

But then he comes out with a gorgeous gem like Midnight in Paris and I don't know what to make of the guy...

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billyweeds
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Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy, what did you think of Everyone Says I Love You? I never saw it. Am I missing a Woody Allen movie worth looking at? Is it something a movie musical buff should have viewed at least once?


Adore it. One of Woody Allen's best films.
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Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy, what did you think of Everyone Says I Love You? I never saw it. Am I missing a Woody Allen movie worth looking at? Is it something a movie musical buff should have viewed at least once?


Short answer: Yes. Worth seeing once, just for the gimmick of non-singers singing. It's Allen-Lite, you might find it ridiculous, but it's not boring.

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billyweeds
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Lorne--I guess I'm in a minority of sorts, but I thought Midnight in Paris was only okay. Of recent Allens, I much prefer the less revered, less successful You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger.
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carrobin
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Back when I worked for the film class, we saw every Woody Allen film--but I haven't seen many since. I did see "Everyone Says I Love You," which might have been the last one I saw for the class. I recall that it was pretty lightweight but lovely to watch, and the Marx Brothers musical number was memorable. (I do want to see "Blue Jasmine.")


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billyweeds
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lshap wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy, what did you think of Everyone Says I Love You? I never saw it. Am I missing a Woody Allen movie worth looking at? Is it something a movie musical buff should have viewed at least once?


Short answer: Yes. Worth seeing once, just for the gimmick of non-singers singing. It's Allen-Lite, you might find it ridiculous, but it's not boring.


Meanwhile, I've reseen it several times with increasing joy on each viewing. Edward Norton in particular is amazingly adorable. So is Drew Barrymore (the only performer whose singing is dubbed by someone else).
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billyweeds wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy, what did you think of Everyone Says I Love You? I never saw it. Am I missing a Woody Allen movie worth looking at? Is it something a movie musical buff should have viewed at least once?


Adore it. One of Woody Allen's best films.


Didn't see that reaction coming from you! I'm a fan of philosopher-Woody, master of the deep premise. My favourite films of his weave sharp humour around angst, like a tender brochette wrapped in bacon. Everyone Says I Love You was all bacon, without the meat in the middle. A nice snack, but no meal.

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marantzo
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:12 pm Reply with quote
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I never saw September or Another Woman and never will.

I saw Deconstructing Harry on TV way back when and thought it was OK. I think I was making supper at the time.

I saw Hollywood Ending and I was entertained. Saw The Curse of the Jade Scorpion and liked it. No doubt a non-classic, but I got a lot of laughs and the hypnotism scene with Woody on the stage was hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing, just looking at him.

I didn't see Whatever Works. Apparently it is Woody's worst movie, not counting the "serious" movies that have been mentioned.

Joe, Everyone Says I Love You was a good movie. A nice musical.
billyweeds
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:12 pm Reply with quote
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lshap wrote:
billyweeds wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy, what did you think of Everyone Says I Love You? I never saw it. Am I missing a Woody Allen movie worth looking at? Is it something a movie musical buff should have viewed at least once?


Adore it. One of Woody Allen's best films.


Didn't see that reaction coming from you! I'm a fan of philosopher-Woody, master of the deep premise. My favourite films of his weave sharp humour around angst, like a tender brochette wrapped in bacon. Everyone Says I Love You was all bacon, without the meat in the middle. A nice snack, but no meal.


Just loved the vibe and the lack of pretension. My favorite Woody Allen movie (by light years) is Manhattan, which I much prefer to the more universally adored Annie Hall.

Other favorite Woody Allens include Zelig, Broadway Danny Rose, Manhattan Murder Mystery, Husbands and Wives, about two-thirds of Crimes and Misdemeanors. Loathe Mighty Aphrodite and (whispering here) Sweet and Lowdown.
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marantzo
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:25 pm Reply with quote
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Tall Dark Stranger and Midnight In Paris are both excellent, but they are very different movies so it is hard to compare them.
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I liked Mighty Aphrodite and really, really liked Sweet and Lowdown. I also think that Manhattan is better movie than Annie Hall, but I'm not saying Annie wasn't a very good movie.

A coincidental thing happened when I saw Manhattan in NYC. I saw it in the afternoon and we went to Elaine's that night. I think it was a Sunday. The joint was full of celebrities We sat at the bar. Woody was right behind us with a date. Hemingway was at a table with a couple of girlfriends. I was tempted to tell them that I just saw the movie and loved it, but I thought better of it.
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Sum of all of Mr. Konigsberg's films that I've watched:

Bananas
Love & Death
Sleeper
Annie Hall
Interiors (blech!)
Manhattan
Purple Rose of Cairo
Hannah et al.
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Shadows and Fog
Bullets over Broadway
Mighty Aphrodite (yech!)
Sweet and Lowdown (zzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Small Time Crooks (remember almost nothing of this one)
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion (meh)
Match Point (meh)
VCB
Midnight in Paris

Based on what I've read here today, I might add Tall Dark Stranger to that list. But, percentage-wise, I can't say I'm a big fan. But when he's good, he's great. Sleeper always makes me laugh.

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carrobin
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:52 pm Reply with quote
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"Annie Hall" is far and away my favorite Allen film, though I have a great fondness for "Love and Death," "Hannah and Her Sisters," "Purple Rose of Cairo," "Bullets Over Broadway," "Broadway Danny Rose" and "Manhattan Murder Mystery." It helps that I love New York City, and most of those films are Manhattan-centric. (I haven't seen most of his later films, as I mentioned.)
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