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Syd |
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:54 am |
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Description of Queen of Katwe: "A young girl from Uganda trains to become a world chess champion." Lupita Ngong'o is the young girl. Mira Nair is the director. Am I the only one who drools at the prospect of this film? |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:59 am |
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Ghulam wrote: .
Ramin Bahrani is known mostly for making offbeat movies. However his 99 Homes is very much on the beaten path. It is an over-dramatized and somewhat improbable story of being seduced followed by redemption. Very good performances by Andrew Garfield and Michael Shannon.
I would change the word "improbable" to "creative." Of course this set of circumstances is "improbable," but so is Hamlet. So is A Streetcar Named Desire. So is Citizen Kane. These are all stories about unusual people behaving in unusual ways. I will give you "over-dramatized" if you mean melodramatic, but that's only at the climax, and I bought into that as a way of bringing closure to the story, and the depiction of Green led inexorably to that moment. |
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Ghulam |
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:21 pm |
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Billy, you too are making the same point I made namely that the movie is very much on the beaten path. Even if you liked it more than I did, you must admit this is not what we have come to expect from Bahrani.
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:05 pm |
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Ghulam wrote: .
Billy, you too are making the same point I made namely that the movie is very much on the beaten path. Even if you liked it more than I did, you must admit this is not what we have come to expect from Bahrani.
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Yeah, you're right. |
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Syd |
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:17 am |
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Bridge of Spies: A pretty good film on the Rudolph Abel spy case of the 1950s and his subsequent exchange for Francis Gary Powers. The hero here is Jim Donovan (Tom Hanks), who had the thankless task of representing Abel during his trial, and later appealing Abel's case to the Supreme Court on 4th Amendment gounds (and Donovan was right despite the Supreme Court decison). When Powers was shot down, Donovan negotiated the exchange.
But the really great performance here is Mark Rylance as Abel. He's cool, underplays the part and walks away with the movie. The film really sparkles when he and Hanks are on screen together, and when Powers was on stage, I found myself longing to see what Abel was up to.
I can't imagine this being a huge hit, but it was more interesting than I was expecting. |
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:32 am |
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The Cranes Are Flying (1957) starts with a heady romance which gets interrupted, twisted and finally killed by WWII. The camerawork is really a standout. There are some great tracking shots of the girl pushing her way through crowds. I really liked when the camera is watching the folks out one window then pans through the train and pops out the opposite window to see all the faces out that way. In a way very simple, but very effective as well.
it's almost like a companion piece to Ballad of a Soldier -- from the view point of those on the home front, and city dwellers. |
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:43 am |
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Strike (1925). Nobody made films like Eisenstein. This was his first feature, and the rapid montage is impressive but gets a little dizzying. Almost every quick cut to a new image has some movement, whether faces coming towards the camera, a train heading left, a whistle blowing, workers swarming out of the factory. It's all a bit too dynamic, keeping the viewer on edge. While the acting is mostly exaggerated mannered silent acting.
There are plenty of odd (brief) scenes of animals interspersed throughout. Some of these are related to code words and the personalities of industrial spies, at other times they serve as metaphors or to show the factory deserted. For a film about industrial strife there are a remarkable number of shots of animals. Battleship Potemkin was next up for Eisenstein. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:57 am |
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Have you seen Battleship Potemkin? I've seen it a number of times. It belongs to the great movies. I have seen it when it was visibly difficult and later it was cleared up much better. Hurrah for the Communists!  |
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:16 am |
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I've seen Potemkin a few times, initially in university in a film intro course of some sort. Probably to illustrate montage. |
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:06 pm |
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Sorry, The Cranes flew into Current film for some reason.
I should strike that ...
Anyway, I thought Eisenstein's Ivan The Terrible is a truly amazing film, especially Part I. The set design is just incredible. Again, it's such an idiosyncratic film, unlike other films in a number of ways, notably the pacing. |
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Syd |
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:51 pm |
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Shouldn't these be in Couch With a View> |
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:11 pm |
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Syd, you are correct.  |
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:25 am |
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In geological time, those are all current films.
Finally saw Room 237. Mindbending assemblage of Kubrick fan crackpottery. Have to admit, there are some weird frames in The Shining....and that mysterious vanishing chair. It is recommended for film buffs simply in terms of meeting people who really watch a film attentively. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:04 am |
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Here was my post on Room 237 from a couple years back:
gromit wrote: Room 237 is a film in which a bunch of obsessives rattle off various theories about the sub-textual meanings in The Shining. These range from the genocide of the Indians, to hints about Kubrick faking the moon landings, Nazis! and more. When one enthusiast starts weaving a theory about Indian genocide based largely around the Calumet baking soda cans in the storage room, I was cynically wondering why the large cans of Tang didn't have equal hidden meanings. And then later another nutter launches into how Kubrick helped fake the moon landing footage and is hinting at that throughout the film, as the presence of large jars of Tang makes abundantly clear. Conspiracy theories are always amusing/interesting but a lot of the ideas here have an I Buried Paul quality to them.
Some of the observations, and especially the minor details taken up, are interesting. However, a number of them just seemed like parodies of over-analyzing a text and finding whatever meanings you are looking for. The Nazi/Holocaust theories fell into the later category: #42 on the kid's sweater + a German brand typewriter = 1942 and Nazi genocide. Uh, sure. Seemed just as easy to say 42 was Jackie Robinson's number plus Scatman Crothers taking an axe to the midsection referred to segregation or black oppression or wherever you wanted to go with such loose theorizing.
I was also less impressed with those who thought Kubrick was a super-genius who tossed in symbols and allusions to all of human culture in his horror movie. But I guess that would account for the draggy pace. Not necessary, but probably a good idea to re-watch The Shining before and/or possibly after viewing the Room 237 documentary. Room 237 is probably a good thing to catch some fragments of on cable -- but overall just adds up to a misuse of interpretation and obsession.
This is good:
Owen Gleiberman of Entertainment Weekly:
"Room 237 makes perfect sense of The Shining because, even more than The Shining itself, it places you right inside the logic of how an insane person thinks."
A lot of the problem is that these folks are sure they've decoded some important hidden meaning intrinsic to the film, whereas if they just took a more low key approach their ideas and connections would be more interesting and believable. That the silhouette of the skier in a poster on the wall happens to (sort of) look like a minotaur is interesting, but doesn't mean that it was intended to convey that meaning, deftly hinting at the labyrinth, etc |
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:22 am |
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Quote: When one enthusiast starts weaving a theory about Indian genocide based largely around the Calumet baking soda cans in the storage room, I was cynically wondering why the large cans of Tang didn't have equal hidden meanings. And then later another nutter launches into how Kubrick helped fake the moon landing footage and is hinting at that throughout the film, as the presence of large jars of Tang makes abundantly clear. Conspiracy theories are always amusing/interesting but a lot of the ideas here have an I Buried Paul quality to them.
Indeed. I had the same thought about the baking soda cans, and then had a good laugh when the Tang showed up. And picturing Kubrick laugh himself sick out in the Bardo or wherever. The whole thing is very postmodern, with the assumption that people can mine every frame for meaning and then plant a conceptual flag there. The thing with the in/out tray and that being Barry Nelson's boner made me LOL - not just for the image, but because of the Shining theorist's earnestness and absolute certainty that it was intentional.
I was surprised Doug Adams wasn't mentioned when they started on "42."
The one thing that did make sense was that certain continuity errors, like the chair disappearing behind Jack, were intentional and meant to convey the mutable nature of reality inside the Overlook Hotel. They got one basic thing right: Kubrick was brilliant.
The little boy quit showbiz shortly after The Shining and, I googled him, he now teaches biology at a community college in Elizabethtown, KY. Had to wonder how many emails he gets around Halloween saying "REDRUM!" |
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